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Topic : Review of Tanzania Development Vision 2025 (TDV 2025)  
 
The Economic and Social Research Foundation (ESRF) has been tasked by the President’s Office, Planning Commission-POPC to review the Tanzania Development Vision 2025 (TDV 2025) which started to be implemented since year 2000 with the aim of attaining five major attributes namely; ...Click here to read more
     
Comments From TAKNET Members
Dr H.Bohela Lunogelo  : Wednesday, February 23, 2011    
  Dear Contributors,
It has been an interesting 4 weeks period of lively discussions on the subject. We have now to wind up so that we can synthesize your views into meaningful recommendations to our government. I would like to convey our sincere gratitude to you all on my behalf of the entire TDV2025 review team, comprising of Prof. Haidari Amani, Dr Oswald Mashindano, Dr Donatilla Kaino, Dr Salatiel Moyo, Dr Mwaijande, Dr Ngowi, Prof. Mlawa, Mr Kilemile and Dr Luvanda. Others in the team are Vivian Kazi, Monica Hangi, Festo Maro and Apronius Mbilinyi. During the course of the discussions we got immense support from our Knowledge Management Department under Ms. Margareth Nzuki.
Its my hope that all the contributors will be acknowledged in the policy brief to be prepared. I dont think others will have ill-feelings if i singled out a few of the contributors as part this parting note. I specifically noted the prolific contributions from Dr Omari Mwinyi Khamisi (from Sweden), who actually kept the chat room busy with more than 15 contributions on most aspects of the Vision. I was wondering if it wasnt high time convinced him and his family to come back home and experience the excitements of tacking the challenges of development first hand! Of course we dont mind harvesting your ideas remotely like we did during this dialogue. Dr Khamisi may wish to know that there is a deliberate effort by EAC partner states to engage the Diaspora in development efforts. Let me conclude my appreciation by mentioning others who made two or more contributions in the debate, namely, Amon Manyama, Kabuje Furaham Mwiru Sima, Paul Salia, and Kelly Wanda. Althoiugh we opened up the debate in Kiswahili for those who wished to use it, we got such response from Enri and Agomwile Fungo. Tunashukuru sana kwa michango yao.
Bila shaka mchango wa wote, waliotumia lugha ya kigeni na wale waliotumia Kiswahili, umechangia kutoa mawazo kwa wadadisi wetu wanaopitia Dira ya Taifa 2025.
Asanteni sana.
Dr H.Bohela Lunogelo
 
     

Dr H.Bohela Lunogelo  : Monday, February 21, 2011    
  Dear Contributors,
Last week was a rather quiet one--with very few comments, mostly centred on the need for good leadership. But also overall I am still wondering if we, as moderators, are missing something in terms of motivating or getting more people to contribute in this very important topic. For example, very little has been said on the institutional and legal arrangement for spearheading the implementation of the Vision.
Regards.
Luno
 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Monday, February 14, 2011    
 

It is true that most of our leaders have emerged from CCM/TANU. Leaders of CUF, CHADEMA etc were formerly representatives of CCM. It is also a fact that Tanzania is looked at as ONE PARTY STATE where there is no democracy. We had a leader namely the late Mwalimu J.K.Nyerere who had a vision of   THE ARUSHA DECLARATION. This has been modified to vision 2025. It is also true that every single Tanzanian has his/her own future vision and that is different from the 2025 vision as described by the government. It is therefore very important to ask the 40 million Tanzanians what are their visions, try to analyse these visions and compose only ONE VISION out of their visions.

Dr.Khamis

Sweden

 
     

Grant Stuart Simpson  : Monday, February 14, 2011    
 

Dear Mr. Manyama


I could not agree with you more. Robust debate amongst leaders generally allows for leaders to emerge. These leaders tend to have a vision. There is not enough robust debate in the Tanzanian political environment as in reality from an outsiders perspective it appears as though you are a one party state, this is turn supports and maintains mediocrity.


Grant Simpson

 
     

Amon Manyama  : Monday, February 14, 2011    
 

I still have many questions as food for thought … are we talking about people’s vision 2025 or leader’s vision 2025? Are they the same! How do we make sure that people’s vision is the same as leader’s vision? So, what is the core problem facing Tanzanians today? Is it lack of leaders and poor leadership and/or vision?

Looking back to 1995, the President by then asked Tanzanian experts to draft the Vision 2025. Those who drafted the Vision 2025 in 1996 - 1998 did an excellent job. However, the truth is that there has been no “champion or leadership” to translate the Vision 2025 into serious implementable programmes. MKUKUTA reviews in 2009/10, clearly revealed that Tanzania has inadequate implementation capacity and weak leadership at all levels.  


It is weak leadership in Tanzania at all levels that has made the vision 2025 useless. In my view, I don’t think that by reviewing the Vision 2025, we will achieve the development results we want … because the root problem is not about the vision itself. The root problem is leadership ... and not the Vision 2025.


It is well documented in thousands of books and research work that leaders need to have a clear vision to lead and inspire their people in the right direction of development (change) … as we are contributing to the review of the vision can we also seriously look at the leadership issue? Vision cannot be imposed on leaders who have no vision. Effort should be directed to reviewing systems/process (political, social, etc) that breed leaders and leadership.


 A.      Manyama.

 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Sunday, February 13, 2011    
 

I have been predicting   on the use of our enormous gas deposits in a better way. As an example our buses and even personal cars can use gas instead of petrol/diesel. In this way the government can save a lot of money   and stop importation of oil or reduce to a minimum level. Certain buses in Stockholm for example are using gas (especially town buses) and some personal cars also use gas.

Such things should be taken in the Vision 2025.Mp’s are just complaining in the Parliament but are failing to give suggestions of using our own natural resources in order to solve our problems! What sorts of MP’s are these, they have to come with a solution to solve countries’ problem. Sounding an alarm in Parliament on the poor state of oil production the world, Wawi MP Hamadi Rashid Mohammed said if no urgent measures were taken Tanzanians would be forced to brace up for tough life ahead.

The former leader of the opposition camp in Parliament called on the government to start importing oil in bulk immediately a stand PM Pinda had already accepted based on the MP’s request.”


“Dr.Khamis

Sweden

 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Sunday, February 13, 2011    
 

I have also questioned about the food reserves in the country that it is not enough. The food reserve should be able to feed all 40 million Tanzanians for a period of about one year. This is not the case.” There are indications that Tanzania would be hard hit by food crisis unless most parts of the country receive average rains that normally start in the middle of next month.

 This reporter has noted that maize plants on farms along Dar es Salaam – Dodoma highway have begun drying up as a result of scarcity of rains.

The situation is bad even in famous maize production areas such as Kibaigwa  in Dodoma Region.  Neighbouring Kiteto in Manyara Region is also reported to be experiencing similar conditions.

A Kiteto resident Musa Haroun speaking to this paper in Dodoma said: “The government says there is   food reserve in the country, based on last season’s harvest but in my assessment the situation will be appalling this year ”We are now facing a reality “NO RAIN NO FOOD” and we have enormous volumes of water flowing daily into the Indian Ocean from our rivers. Such thins have to be considered in the Vision 2025. Tanzania cannot afford such ignorance of not using water from our lakes and rivers for irrigation farming.

Dr.Khamis
Sweden

 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Sunday, February 13, 2011    
 

“ If we are serious in implementing  the ‘Kilimo Kwanza’ programme,  each individual farmer must be given a single power tiller - not a single power tiller to a group of farmers,” said Mufindi South MP Menrad Kigola."

There is alo a food shortage now in the country!

Dr.Khamis
Sweden

 
     

Kabuje Furaha  : Saturday, February 12, 2011    
 

Thanks Dr Khamis for observation on GMO. Yes there is a mindset that GMO is for animal feed, and probably not for human consumption.

In another dimension, there are researches done on crop for them to become more resistant to diseases, pest, drought or for the maize plant to bear several cobs ….. Thus, the genes are tempered in a way to make the plant become resistant to such problems. To me this is a kind of GMO I am talking about and I think are of more beneficial to farmers because they improve productivity and at the same time reduce risk agaist diseases or pest.

Developed countries such as US and even South Africa, raise these kind of genetic Modified cereals , of which they give us when we fall short of cereals or hunger. They don’t have our traditional breed which mostly have low productivity.  I think we can collaborate with them in researches to get improved breeds that could help us improve productivity and eventually farmers livelihood.

Kabuje

 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Friday, February 11, 2011    
 

Thanks Mr.Manyama for informing us that only 40 studies were conducted in order to review all aspects of MKUKUTA I. If each our gold mines in Tanzania were based by selecting only 40 samples from each mine our investors would have refused to put their money at risk.


I have myself conducted  research on ore deposit(gold,copper,zink,silver,lead )  in Sweden(10 mine deposits),Saudi Arabia (2 gold deposits), Chile(The largest Copper deposit with 100 years mile life time),Burkina Farso  (Zink-lead deposit), Finland (Nickel deposit) and Tanzania (Mbeya carbonatite deposit, which is now mined and have Mbeya Cement Factory) In each of the mentioned deposits I treated between 1000 to 6000 sample results. I also applied geo-statistics in evaluating these deposits.


My studies on Mbeya were used by Skanska Cement of Sweden (on my permission via my Professor) before constructing the Mbeya Cement Factory.(You can find my research report at the University of Dar es Salaam, STAMICO-Dar es Salaam and Seruji Office)


The life of 40 million Tanzanians is based only on 40 studies of reviewing MKUKUTA I. What is the mean and the standard deviation of these 40 studies? Can you plot a normal curve of your distribution of your 40 samples?


Scientifically, each and every village in Tanzania should have made an evaluation of MKUKUTA I and send evaluation report to those dealing with MKUKUTA I. All our University and Secondary   school students could be asked to give their views concerning MKUKUTA I. All this information could be employed not only in MKUKUTA II but also in the Vision 2025.


Probably by 2050 our villagers will move to big towns and leave empty villages as is the case in Europe now!


Dr.Khamis


Sweden

 
     

Amon Manyama  : Friday, February 11, 2011    
 

Dear all,


In 2009/2010, in addition to the regular PHDR, MDGR, MAIR, etc, they were about 40 studies to review various aspects of MKUKUTA I, I am not sure what evaluation report is needed?


Amon

 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Thursday, February 10, 2011    
 

Thanks Mr.Furaha for your contribution on agriculture. We actually need to change the way our farming is conducted. We have to employ a sort of mixed farming and that is our farmers should have both crops and livestock and could able to use modern technology Irrigation farming is very important for us and don’t have to depend on rain. Tanzania has several big lakes and rivers. It is actually a shame for us to depend on the periodical rain.


Farmers in Denmark grow the Genetically Modified Maize only to be used by their animals Therefore there is still a lot of research to be conducted in this field. Our Universities could engage in such research projects.


Dr.Khamis


Sweden

 
     

Kabuje Furaha  : Wednesday, February 09, 2011    
 

Contin......
This is to say that  the MKUKUTA phase I evaluation report should have been discussed before embarking in drafting phase II.  The vision 2025 has very good overview of the challenges of the past vision, but I am not convinced that we have worked out on that, because we face similar challenges and some of them have been magnified under the current situation.

An assessment of the past vision shows that Tanzania have development propensity to prepare pronounce plans and programme and ambitions which are not by effective implementation, monitoring and evaluation mechanism as a result implementation has been weak. I am seen the same shortcomings todate when we are assessing the 10 years of the vision 2025, and the situation seems to be not changing.

 Certainly MDAs have been underscoring the role of Monitoring and evaluation in terms of capacity building and financial resource allocation or implementing its activities. This has been very serious problem especially at LGAs level. At least I can speak for the Agriculture Sector (at LGA level) that until recently, there were very limited Monitoring and Evaluation activities going on. However todate there are monitoring and evaluation officers for agriculture but very limited resource is allocated and they have not been trained to understand and conduct evaluation of agricultural projects effectively. 


My suggestion is, lets create a post for competent officer dealing with monitoring and evaluation at LGA level instead of treating as additional responsibility to any officer. At National level MDAs have section dealing with evaluation but more emphasis need to be directed to increasing resource and capacity building.  


Another thing is about dissemination of the results for public scrutiny, at least now days some report are available for public use at ward, village and district level. But the public need to be sensitized more on the importance of those reports.

Thanks
Kabuje Furaha

 
     

Kabuje Furaha  : Wednesday, February 09, 2011    
 

Continuation....
1.   
In addition lets invest heavily in irrigation by supporting good infrastructure and capital, even in small area where we will have few farmers producing highly, and probably employ others. We can have few farmer who will be example for tother to emulate. The same can be done in livestock through injecting capital to existing few farmers or farms who will provide demonstration to others. Lets adopt quality livestock breeds with very high productivity, I am sure the traditional livestock farming (of having large number of cattle without selling) will not be entertained.


2.     I also would like to emphasize the importance of result based monitoring and evaluation in the sector and MDAs at large. Mwiru (and Khamis) posed very important question on whether we have done enough evaluation of MKUKUTA I and taken into account of the evaluation results to use them in planning for MKUKUTA phase II. Yes, there are few annual and biannual report development report such as PHDR which oversee some aspect of MKUKUTA, but the question is, with these few results of assessment, are they used for management and decision making in MKUKUTA pahse II? I understand monitoring was undertaken during MKUKUTA I implementation, but were the results of Monitoring results/recommendation used timely?


Kabuje Furaha

 
     

Kabuje Furaha  : Wednesday, February 09, 2011    
 

Dear colleague,


I would like to air my views in the aspect of agriculture versus Vision 2025 and ineffective implementation sysdrome. 

The vision 2025 has acknowledged the role of agriculture towards better livelihood. More than 80% of Tanzanian population rely on farming activities for their daily income and food requirement. In other words, if we would have manage to solve the farmers constraints, then we are sure of better livelihood to them or rather attain middle income country. My argument here is, the agriculture sector could be a vehicle toward better livelihood.  Based on the figures of year 2000 todate,  the growth of agriculture sector has been on the declining trend since 2006. Its contribution to overall GDP has also been declining from about 50% to 25% (even using the revised national accounts).

Another question is, …has the situation improved at micro level (small holder farmers)?

Certainly the financial, human resource allocation has been on the increasing trend, however the output realized is too small. Figures shows slightly improvement in terms of productivity for some crop especially in irrigation areas, but overall the situation has not improved, and its unlikely to achieve the vision goals with this pace.

I don’t like to dwell on what or where we went wrong because some members have mentioned, however I would like to come up with the following suggestion;

1.    Using the irrigation potential of which we have between 300,000 to 400,000 hectares, we have seen slightly productivity improvement, but if we could adopt the Genetic Modified seeds (GMO) we are sure of increasing productivity more than six times. The country who save us during hunger, uses this technology together with irrigation to have surplus cereals. What about us? Are we taking measures to learn the advantage of GMO. I think, it’s a high time we change our mindset about GMO and get rid of traditional seeds!!!. We can use local technology or import improved seeds which have research under our local environmental and use it….. in this way, we can help the 80% population attain better livelihood in terms of food security and gain excess income derived from surplus harvest.
  Cont......

 
     

Mwiru Sima  : Monday, February 07, 2011    
 

Continuation ..

3. Jamani kuna very key sectors ambazo zinahitaji competent people with certain skills, but in our country we even disappoint our donors, unaweza kukuta sehemu anatakiwa akae economist badala yake yupo sociologist au engineer, what do we expect?


4. What the so called Think Tanks kwenye MDAs is a very good idea but i thought the compositions should include academia, researchers, key NGOs representaive ambao they meet on quarterly or whatever frequency to bring up new ideas and innovations and guide the way foraward. I am not saying kwamba MDAs hawawezi lakini kutoka na point ya hapo juu kuhusu positions, i think this could be revisited and include few people from key institutions, especially those engaging in reaserch all the time,they have new ideas. Lakini mtu wa wizara anafanya research saa ngapi, kinachotokea unaweza kukuta kwamba we heavily rely on our donors to drive the process, they impose or copy and paste approaches from experience in other countries which do not necessarily work in Tanzania.r


5. Change of the culture to results orientation, lets orient and reinforce manage for results culture. We cannot continue just implement activities,train,travel,. we should have this shift from traditional M&E to results oriented such that everything we do should have a certain impact


6. Strong Communication which do not only print leaflets but which ensure they make sense of it and devise other communication channels as they current ones seem to have little impact


7. MDAs, LGAs, stakeholders should align their work to MKUKUTAII. and they should be tasked to review their SPs now. A mechanism to conduct annual MDAs review is critical


Tunazunguka mikoani kuwasumbua wananchi kuwauliza maendeleo ya V2025 ni kuwasunbua, kupoteza resources and it is not acceptaced at all. if the aim is gauge their understanding labda but progress ya V2025 to wananchi i consider it as an insult to them


Mr moderator apologies if I went offtrack a bit but for me the vision is going to be realized by these instruments which we are not doing that well now.


Thank you
Mwiru

 
     

Mwiru Sima  : Monday, February 07, 2011    
 

Wana TAKNET naungana na ndugu yangu Furaha katika hili na naomba niongezee kidogo pia kama ifuatavyo:


As we know the vision is to be realized by other instruments, the major one being MKUKUTA! All sectors including donors are theoretically supposed to align their work with MKUKUTA priorities. If you do a quick review you will find very few MDAs, INGO, CSOs, etc align their work. This makes it difficult to have a coordinated concerted efforts  towards achieving the set results. It is even very difficult to monitor and evaluate. YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE MKUKUTA II WAS DEVELOPED LAST YEAR WITHOUT EVALUATION OF MKUKUTA I. How do you learn from the past and adjust??? This is business as usual, How do we expect to be a middle income country by 2015 if even the culture of evaluation is not there.


The annual MKUKUTA progress reports are being edited from year to the other with indicators from the big surveys done after 4 or five years eg THMIS, TDHS. So for five years MKUKUTA I progress report aka MAIR reported Maternal Mortality Ratio of 578/100,000 for five years. We dont have annualized targets which are inline with the five years ones  to measure progress with the aim that after five years we will have reduced MMR. So i consider this as a wastage of resources, and elites, researchers are to be blaimed on this. they come with these ideas for the aim of earning money honestly. If you critically review MKUKUTA related reports or progress reports, i will mention few MAIR, Hali halisi, PHDR, Peoples views (we go to collect data on peoples view on MKUKUTA vijijini wakati hata mjini kwenyewe tena Mawizarani hawaujui), and other sectoral related reports consume handsomely huge amount of money and if you critically review they report same progress, data from previous surve ys and the information is slightly alterd.


For me is that we dont have so much to discuss on VISION review or progress without evaluating MKUKUTA itself (IF WE CANNOT MEASURE WE CANNOT MANAGE) which is the main instrument for realization of the vision. MDAs should be able to define clearly their contribution to the MKUKUTA and be able to do an annual review which will form the single MKUKUTA progress report. This means all other actors who supports MDAs are theoretically contributing to the MDAs strategic plans. So they will work together to review, provide TA to MDAs to come up with  a realistic progress in a particular year.


I know miongozo ipo, a sound M&E, strategic planning from central to local level is available, but implementation is a problem. Is this because most of these documents are prepared by consultants and the authorities have no clues on their own documents? We dont have strong M&E units in Key ministry or sectors, what do you expect. In Uganda Population and Planning council has four M&E Specilaist who provide QA for all plans to ensure they are evaluable, monitorable etc.


I think we need to change the strategy to ensure that Tanzanians understand. The government has created communication officers in the ministries, I am not sure of their TORs in relation to ensure messages pass to people. The MKUKUTA communication and research Working groups should do more on raising awareness and probaly they should evaluate so that they learn how to take the messages across. The messages should be customized according to group of people for easy understanding


But again if the ILANI ya chama is not mainstreamed in MKUKUTA we also get some problems because politicians will embark on their priorities and less on MKUKUTA. It is increasingly acknowledged to have good intention such as maisha bora kwa wote but it is not sufficient, rather that it is essential to develop projects that are capable of generating significant, measurable and replicable changes. It is this conclusion that drives the importance of program monitoring, evaluation and impact measurement.


Few important things for me


1. Strong M&E entity in the country should be formed to guide M&E units in MDAs, LGAsand hence rigrous M&E


2. Harmonized data collection and use. We spent billions of money to collect data which is hardly used for decision making, resource allocation, etc Evidence based programming. We cannot continue planning and planning year after year without testing, evaluate and learn from experience


Continues ...

 
     

costa john kanaysu  : Monday, February 07, 2011    
 

Dear members,
I have been following this great discussion and indeed,i do agree with majority of  the discussant on the challenges of fulfilling the development vision 2025.Tanzania is not an island, or were not locked in a room where the outside environment doesn't affect us, If USA is crying for unemployment rate why not Tanzania? Employment is not about a monthly wage,it is about what a person should do for earning.It is time now to prepare our minds for self-employment.

 
     

Oswald Mashindano  : Saturday, February 05, 2011    
  Dear Members

Thank you for your efforts to contribute in the discussion of this impoortant topic. We have received many contributions with very relevant and informative contents. Since our timeframe for discussion of this agenda is still available, I would urge members to continue participating and offer their valuable inputs.

In addition ESRF has constructed a survey instrument (questionnare) which is more structured to further improve our discussion and data collection from the public. This is therefore another data collection tool which I would like to introduce it to members. Please visit and fill in this questionnare through the link appearing on the first web page ie VISIT TDV-2025 Questionnaire.

Thank you for now 
Best Regards

Oswald Mashindano
Moderator


  
 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Friday, February 04, 2011    
  Continues

Therefore   let us aim at


1.      Reliable electricity to all villages and towns in Tanzania by 2025.We can use , gas coal,solar and hydropower.


2.      Good railway lines, better major roads so that farmers can easily transport their products.


3.      Lift our standard of living by using gas cookers, electrical cookers so that our women don’t have to rely on fire wood.


4.      Let us build good and modern houses in our villages and our towns.


5.      Let us aim of delivering clear water to all Tanzanians by 2025.We can even desalt our sea water to reach this goal. If Saudi Arabia can do it why not us?


6.      Let us create jobs for our graduates so that they can join us in building this nation.


 


Dr.khamis


Sweden

 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Friday, February 04, 2011    
 

I do agree with Mr.Sima that IT won’t help at this moment as a teaching method in our primary and secondary education. IT will require a need of IT-Office in every school so that the technology will run smoothly. It will also add other costs like computer for every student. Well in Scandinavia we teach computer knowledge like Microsoft Excel, Word, Power Point and Access in our secondary schools. But we have teachers or a consultant company  that has taken this job in schools


Let us just keep the IT at our universities as an experiment   We all know that electricity is a major problem hindering our development. All those developed countries e.g. Scandinavia have a reliable electricity that is being distributed even in a remote village .That is why they can even afford having electrical trains, industries, mines and good infrastructure They are using both hydroelectric power, wind mills(Denmark, Sweden)  and Nuclear reactors to produce electricity. Therefore   let us aim at


 


Dr.khamis


Sweden

 
     

Abdallah Hassan  : Friday, February 04, 2011    
  Lonyori Kisota Laizer na wanaTAKNET Kitabu cha Composite development goals kinapatikana Tanzania Online katika linki ifuatayo: http://www.tzonline.org/pdf/compositedevelopmentgoalfortanzania.pdf  
     

Mwiru Sima  : Friday, February 04, 2011    
 

Wana maendeleo, naomba nami nichangia kuhusu uboreshaji wa elimu nchini kwa teknohama


Hili ni wazo zuri katika mazingira yasio sahihi. Coverage ya umeme hasa vijijini bado ni ndogo mno.


It may be cost effective and we could have better outcomes if we invest that money which was meant for ICT to train masses of teachers. The experience has shown that if wananchi are mobilized they can construct nyumba za walimu na serikali ikatoa mishara na mafunzo yao.  Watoto wengi vijijini wa shule  kiingereza hawajui, ICT itasolve hii? Let us assume that the programme will be Swahili which I doubt and this means another huge project!  how do they search materials na kuona this is a relevant reference. Wadau hata sisi ambao tumemaliza hivyo vyuo vikuu watu bado hawawezi kusearch information ambayo inatoka kwa reliable source. Hata kama wata customize hizo syllabus vizuri kwenye computer, swala linabaki kwamba instructors wanatakiwa.


Kama desktop moja inauzwa  say 500,000 na shule moja inahitaji 20, that is 10,000,000.  Hii 10,000,000 inatosha kununua vitabu vya hesabu kwa bei ya 5000 mia 200. Hapa si tutapunguza tatizo la vitabu?  Hapa hatujazungumzia other related accessories UPS, back up, internet connectivity, mtaalamu wa IT kwa kila shule, generator, mafuta ya generator ambako hakuna umeme ambako ndo pakubwa zaidi. The issue here is that our decision makers dont do their home work well, they are driven na one- off projects ambazo they never pilot even,just kwa sababu mtu anakuwa anajua cha kwake katika hiyo project.


Ushauri: It would be nice to test the idea in urban areas where at least we have some ICT infrastructure, and roll out slowly ensuring monitoring and evaluation is effective and we continuously learn and adjust as we go. The rest of the budget if already budgeted for iende kufundisha waalim na kununua vitabu Hivi serikali inashindwaje kuongea na akina Sabodos na kuwaambia tuna tatizo hili tusaidie million mia, inaonaje aibu kuomba nyumbani inaenda nje kulia njaa? Kwa mfano makampuni ya simu yanaendesha droo/Bahati nasibu za nyumba mpaka za mia 200 na ni kwa ajili ya mtu mmoja au magari ya million  100 sijui mangapi kwa mwaka. Hivi serikali ikiwaapproach wao taratibu na kuwaambia jamani tuna tatizo hili la elimu na misaada yenu hii itakuwa na impact sana kama tukifanya hivi ambako tumekwama labda wapool pesa kwa ajili ya elimu. Hawa watakubali bila shaka, wakati wananchi wanahamasishwa kwamba watume hizo sms zinasaidia maendeleo! Ni lazilema kuwe na results na sio misuse of the resources tena. Mwisho wa siku tunarudi kwenye good governance, uwajibikaji, uzalendo nk.


Rwanda ambao wame adopt One Laptop per Child (OLPC) wameanza kwa ku-pilot kwanza, and these are the people who are taking very bold decisions and mechanisms to do so are in place, ukicheza wakutoa, hapa kwetu je, ukichemsha wanakuhamisha wizara au wanakutetea.


While we don’t don’t want to lag behind the technology, but we need to plan it careful for greater outcomes/results

Mwiru Sima

 
     

japjet Makongo  : Friday, February 04, 2011    
 

Hi Joseph kayange


I am impressed by your inspiration


take the opportunity now and do not wauit for God's wishes bwana. Go ahead and organize radi/tv talks now..it is a relevant topic and inout into the katiba debate. let those wazee wanaoendesha vipindi kama makwaia wateme cheche.


Makongo

 
     

Lonyori Kisota Laizer  : Thursday, February 03, 2011    
 

Mr Robert, hicho kitabu kinapatikana wapi?

 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Thursday, February 03, 2011    
 

Nashukuru Dr.Lunogelo kwa kuniunga mkono kuhusu ada ya shule na uzito ambao inawapa wazazi hususan wale ambao wana vipato vidogo. Mimi mwenyewe nilishughulika kulipa ada za shule za ndugu zangu halafu pia nikaendelea kulipa ada za shule za watoto wao wakati nafanya kazi Sweden.

Pia namuunga mkono Kabuje Furaha kwamba Kilimo cha kwanza na Mukukuta pia ni moja wapo ya Vision 2025.Mambo yote haya yana lengo moja la kuboresha maisha ya watanzania.Vitu vingi ambavyo vimo katika Mkukuta vimo katika Vision 2025.

Kweli Vision 2025 isiwe tu ni lengo la serikali bali liwe ni lengo la Watanzania wote.Lazima tushiriki katika kuinua maisha yetu.

Dr.khamis
Sweden

 
     

Lingson Adam  : Thursday, February 03, 2011    
 

Dkt Lunogelo na wanaTaknet wote,
Nichangie suala la IT kusaidia kupunguza tatizo katika shule zetu nchini. Kimsingi na kinadharia zaidi usambazaji wa mtandao huo unaweza kusadia, lakini katika mazingira yetu nadhani kama kawaida tumepika sauce hata mchele hatujanunua!

Nadhani we are falling into other people's plans where there is very little for us if any. Mtandao umewekwa na utakamilika, mwenye tenda atalipwa,teknolojia ya mawasiliano inahitajika lakini je kilikuwa ndiyo kipaumbele kwa sasa?

Je teknolojia hiyo inahimili vipi changamoto kama za umeme wa mgao? Je tumeandaa wataalam wa kuongoza kwenye eneo hilo?nina mfano wa wanafunzi rafiki zangu wa chuo kikuu wanapata shida kweli kweli kutafuta 'materials' mtandaoni!

Changamoto za elimu yetu zinajulikana,ni kubwa na ngumu, hata hivyo njia mkato sio rahisi kusaidia kwa faida. Kufundisha walimu wengi na bora zaidi itasaidia. Teknolojia hiyo itumike vyuoni zaidi kuwekeza huko itakuwa cost effective zaidi.

Jamani isitoshe ajira ya ualimu ndiyo inayotubeba wengi, ukikimbilia teknolojia hiyo kufundishia, wengi tutakosa kazi, utakuwa umekuza tatizo baya zaidi la uhaba wa ajira, bomu'
Ahsanteni,
Adam

 
     

Joseph Vincent Kayinga  : Thursday, February 03, 2011    
 

I have been reading these postscripts for long and remained quiet. Guys what you argue are wonderful. I am a journalist and discussions like these impresses me much. Currently 


If God wishes one day we might have a series of TV or Radio programmes for this topic. Give me time to talk to my boses.

Kayinga Joseph
 
     

Robert Masatu Masingiri  : Thursday, February 03, 2011    
 


Hi wadau wa maendeleo: Napenda kuelaza kuwa pamoja na kusoma vision 2025 kiundani sana, watu wengi watabaki bila kuelewa kiupana inataka nini. Hivyo basi ni vema pia wakasoma kitabu kinachoitwa Composite of  development vision 2025. Ni kitabu kizuri ambacho asilimia 100 kianaeleza kipi kifanyike hadi kufikia 2025.
 Asanteni sana.
 Mdau wa maendeleo

 
     

Kabuje Furaha  : Wednesday, February 02, 2011    
 

Dear Taknet Members,



I agree with some of contributors that lack of awareness on Vision 2025 has been very low, even at the central and local government level. And therefore threatens achievement   of the vision 2025 targets.  I am working with the central government in the agricultural planning unit, when this topic on Vision 2025 was introduced, I decided had to refresh my memory by searching for hard copy of the vision 2025! Deo guessed right… I missed it (no where to be found, and I decided to search in the internet), certainly this is because lack of awareness if not ownership of the vision. Yes, I realize that I have many books, but not vision 2025…  So when you go down to the village and ward level, I think similar situation could be observed!!!



This example is to say that, the level of awareness from the common man to the MDAs planning unit has been low, and Vision 2025 ownership could is extremely low. With situation, are integrating our planning from the family/business and public level?



So we have this assignment to increase awareness/sensitize the vision 2025 always. Moreover the vision 2025 should not be seen as government item/entity, but should be seen as national vision, encompassing all group of the community!!. Lets have more copies of the National Vision 2025 at all level and often times be part of our discussion. When we talk of Kilimo kwanza, MKUKUTA, ASDP, and other programs , they should be sensitized as a part of effort to attain Vision 2025.



I will be back to internalize on other issues



Kabuje



 

 
     

Dr H.Bohela Lunogelo  : Wednesday, February 02, 2011    
 

Angomilwe Fungo (tar28jan11) aliahidi kuwa baada ya kuisoma vizuri Dira ya Maenedelo angekuja na hoja za ziada. Sijui kama ameisoma ili tumkaribishe aendelee na hoja zake?
Luno

 
     

Dr H.Bohela Lunogelo  : Wednesday, February 02, 2011    
  Dr Khamis (tarehe 24jan) aliongelea umuhimu wa kutoa vifaa vya shule kwa bei nafuu au bure kwa wanafunzi wa shule za msingi (na sekondari), ambalo ni wazo la watu wengi. Mimi nilipokuwa likizo niligundua kuwa hizi shule za serikali za sekondari ambazo kwa taratibu zinahitaji mchango wa ada ya shs.20,000 (elfu ishirini) kwa mwaka, zilikuwa zinawashinda wazazi wengi wenye kipato kidogo kwa vile kulikuwa kunahitajika vifaa vya shule (licha ya vitabu na madaftari) ambavyo gharame yake ilikuwa inafikia laki moja unusu (day scholar) na laki mbili unusu kwa wanaokaa bweni (godoro, mito, mashuka, ndoo, nk). Gharama hii hasa ni kwa mwanafunzi wa mwaka wa kwanza.  Hii ina maana kuwa kutoa elimu ni gharama kubwa ambayo yapasa kubebwa na jamii.

Jambo jingine ambalo ambalo tumeliongelea kidogo ni lile la mchango wa teknohama (IT) kwenye elimu shule za msingi, sekondari na vyuo vikuu. Serikali imeweka mkakati wa kusambaza mkonga wa mawasiliano (fibre optic cable) nchi yote. Je mnadhani IT inaweza kusaidia kupoza moto tatizo la upungufu wa walimu na vitabu, au ndio itaongeza pengo la wale walionacho na wasionacho?
Nawasilisha.
Luno
 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Wednesday, February 02, 2011    
 

I do agree with Mr.Imani that there is a great need of revising the education in Universities and Secondary Schools in Tanzania. After 10 to 15 years Tanzania is going to reach the current situation now experienced in Europe. The graduates leaving both universities and secondary schools will be unemployed and have a loan to pay. In Europe we have a sort of unemployment fund from the social department in every EU country .Therefore these unemployed graduates can get financial help in order to pay house rent and to buy food. However, we don’t have this type of social help in Tanzania or in any AU-country.


We have to offer a sort of “applied education” in Tanzania. We have to put our efforts in science subjects (Maths, Chemistry, Biology and Physics) so that we can produce different type of engineers, doctors and other scientists.


Dr.Khamis


Sweden

 
     

hanif tuwa  : Tuesday, February 01, 2011    
  "A well educated and learned society", it is appealing goal because it makes sense given the truth that a knowledge-based society has potential to achieve a greater level of social-economic development (in a sustainable manner) than the oil-rich country. A reality check for the case of Tanzania presents uncertainty: what kind of education? who are the educators? how are Tanzanians learning? Some of these questions have been addressed by Saila and Dr. Khamis, among others, but i wish to extend further the discussion towards the interface of research, policy and practice (i baptise "RPP"). The core of this interface is knowledge: its creation and use. Through education system and formal learning processes, and thanks to the proliferation of "universities" knowledge is amply generated: how has it been used to strengthen the RPP interface?

The scenario is visible: research has been ongoing for years on very critical topics but the knowledge that research have created is not well-reflected in many of our policies, if they do, the practice (policy implementation) suggests otherwise. What is the missing link? Let us ponder and discuss: researchers make up a "well-educated and learned society", or don't we? Is the extent to which research-based knowledge inform policy making in Tanzania adequate/satisfactory? It is my strong conviction that this is an issue that needs critical examining, because the kind of education we need for our people should make a positive contribution not at the individual level, rather the impact need to be enjoyed by the broader society.
 
     

Imani A. Kasake  : Friday, January 28, 2011    
  Dear all members,
My bother is about the nature of education in Tanzania, which do not prepare graduates  for self employment or to be creative enough. According to the statistics from Ministry of Education, the number of graduates in secondary schools and universities is increasing more rapidly compared to employment generation in the economy. What should we expect after 15 years? Where are they going to be employed? What are the consequences of generating a huge pool of unemployed graduates? According to my understanding, Tanzania should reform its education curriculum from primary to University level in order to make people more creative and self confident. By so doing technology adoption will increase and employment opportunities will grow faster to match with the increase of job seekers.
 
     

Angomwile Fungo  : Friday, January 28, 2011    
 

 


Dr Lunogela,
binafsi ningependa kuchangia hoja za bwana Enri kama ifuatavyo.
 
kwanza kabisa nilisoma vision25 siku nyingi kidogo na sasa nimejiwekea homework ya kuisoma yote weekend hii. then i will come back to answer the qtn je tatafika 2025 kama vision2025 inavotaka?
katiba mya, hoja #7 ya Enri.

ni muhimu tena ni lazima kuwa na katiba mpya ili tuweze kusonga mbele, mipango mizuri inayowekwa inakosa kufanyika na kufuatiliwa kwa sababu ya kuwa na mianya ya uzembe na rushwa na hatimaye kukosa kabisa ufuatiliaji na mwelekeo.
ndani ya katiba mpya kuwe na chujio la vipengele vya kuwapima na kuwapata viongozi bora, ili kwamba 2pate viongozi bora. misingi ya utawala bora na miiko ya viongozi iwekwe humo tena iwe chapter One.
uzalendo na moyo wa utaifa unaanzia nyumbani, je wazazi tunaongea nini na watoto wetu huhusu taifa hili, kuhusu kazi? je shuleni watoto wanafundishwa nini?
Serikali ielekeze nguvu zake kwenye Mambo Makuu (security, infrastructure&education). hoja#2&5.
Kama serekali itawekeza kwenye barabara,umeme na elimu ni wazi kuwa kazi zitapatikana toka mashambani mpaka viwandani.

vijana vijiweni watapungua, watafanya kazi, na kupata kipato halmashauri zitatoza ushuru kwa shughuli izo za kiuchumi wafanyazo vijana. pesa iyo itarudi tena kuboresha barabara, umeme na elimu.

Ushirikishwaji wananchi kwenye kuunda dira.
hapa ndio mgogoro mama ulipo, kwa nini wananchi hawajashirikiswa kikamilifu? kuna vision ya taifa si ishuke sasa mikoani mpaka wilayani then vijijini? mbona bado iko DSM? inasubiri nini uko?
kama wananchi wangeshirikishwa kikamilifu toka mwanzo basi ungekuta sasa tuko mbali kabisa.
 
thans, standby.
 
 

 
     

Paul John Salia  : Wednesday, January 26, 2011    
 

Dear all,



Hereunder is my further contribution on the quality of education, which is so much given weight in the Vision 2025



 “Tanzania would brace itself to attain creativity, innovativeness and a high level of quality education in order to respond to development challenges and effectively compete regionally and internationally, cognizant of the reality that competitive leadership in the 21st century will hinge on the level and quality of education and knowledge. To this effect, Tanzania should:
Be a nation with high quality of education at all levels; a nation which produces the quantity and quality of educated people sufficiently equipped with the requisite knowledge to solve the society's problems, meet the challenges of development and attain competitiveness at regional and global levels”.



I quite agree with the above quotation from Vision 2025. In deed high quality education is important, as they well put it, in addressing this century’s challenges including regional and international competition. To this aspect, I would say, the government and the private sector have demonstrated a sense of commitment. Each of you has witnessed increased universities (including UDOM), colleges, secondary and primary schools, baby schools etc. However, one of the things that we should worry about is the quality of education, which is so much emphasized in the above quotation. Sometimes, I tend to think that in term of quality we are just moving to the opposite direction. Secondary schools have been constructed in each ward and as a consequence the enrollment has kept going up. But I remember one case reported in the media from Arusha where a form three student could not read and write well. Another story was of my relative’s son who could not read and write well but passed to join the so called ‘ward secondary schools’. Yet another story is one I currently saw in the media about one primary school in Dar es Salaam where pupils were sitting on the floor. With these three examples and many others that you know, there is an urgent need to question the quality of education in view of assessing whether it is the kind of education that we need to be able to compete regionally and internationally.



The last thing I would like to bring up in this discussion is about the growing class polarization regarding access to social services including education. Particularly I would refer to secondary and primary education systems. I do appreciate the involvement of the private sector in providing education but may question the outcome of their involvement. In the mornings when you are rushing to your office you will see children boarding school busses, others in their parents’ cars and yet others are trying to cross the roads footing to their schools. Sometimes all these children reside in the same street at the neighborhood. The picture will tell you that the society is already polarized in terms of access to quality education. In the private schools, where you and I take our children, there are enough and qualified teachers, there are enough books, enough desks etc. In most, if not all, of the public (twende sote) schools these things are missing. What do you expect as a result? Is education being provided in the public schools going to impart students with the needed entrepreneurship skills? Are the poor people’s children going to be able to fight their poverty with the kind of education they are entitled with? I am afraid that we are preparing a two-classes society which will make it difficult to even realize peace in the future.


 Salia

 
     

Safari Isaac  : Wednesday, January 26, 2011    
 

Dear Mashindano,
I read your mail and learned that it is about a pertinent issue of our country and economy in particular.
I suggest that we can take it to students as well and redisgn a kind of questionnaire addressing the issues  you raised.
I am in SAUT and I will do that pending your approval.
Dr. I Safari

 
     

Dr H.Bohela Lunogelo  : Tuesday, January 25, 2011    
 

Mchangiaji ENRI ameibua hoja kadhaa  zinazohitaji   ufumbuzi kwamba  nini tufanye  miaka  15 iliyobaki ili kutimiza malengo makuu ya Dira ya Taifa:


1-      Umuhimu wa kuwashirikisha Wa-Tanzania juu  ya Dira na wajibu wa kila mmoja katika kuyafikia malengo tuliyojiwekea. Mfano nchi changa ambazo zimetekeleza vizuri Dira zao, wananchi wake wa hali yoyote ile wana mwamko mkubwa juu ya Dira.Kwa hiyo inahitaji mkakati wa Kuwashirikisha wananchi.


2-      Kuweka mikakati juu ya Halmashauri zote kujitegemee kifedha na raslimali watu katika kutekeleza mipango ya maendeleo badala ya kutegemea serikali kuu na wafadhili. Uzoefu wa huko nyuma ni kuwa wilaya zingine zililalamika kuwa vyanzo vyao vya kipato kwa wananchi ni finyu mno, kiasi kwamba wakitekeleza mipango ya kukusanya kodi wananchi wanalalamika kuwa wanaonewa au kunyanyaswa kwa vile “ni maskini”.  Je tutalishughulikia vipi “tatizo” hilo? Mwenye suluhu achangie kwenye hili.


3-      Kutatua tatizo la baadhi ya kaya kupata milo ya chakula chini ya mitatu. Mchangiaji Enri anatoa changa moto ya nini kifanyike ili kuhakikisha hakuna kaya inakosa chakula, ambapo kwa kiasi kikubwa inapelekea kuwa na watoto wa mitaani pia?


4-      Je tatizo la utoro shuleni na mimba za wanafunzi litatatuliwa kwa kupitisha sheria zenye adhabu kali au mafunzo zaidi ya kuelismisha jamii ya kulikabili tatizo hilo?


5-      Enri pia anaibua tatizo la “vijijini utakuta vijana wanakaa vijiweni wakivuta bangi wakati wa kilimo na uongozi usifanye chochote vivyo hivyo kwa polisi kuachia vijiwe wakiwa na uongozi wa mitaa”. Naamini kuwa vijiwe ni kama “panafuka moshi, pana moto” kwa maana ni dalili za tatizo la kimsingi. Je hili dalili hizi ni za ugonjwa gani, yaani vijiwe vimesababishwa na kitu gani? Na kuanzia sasa tuchukue hatua gani za kurekebisha chanzo cha udhaifu huu?


6-      Enri pia ametoa wazo kuwa taasisi zetu za kifedha ziwe na mipango maalumu ya kuwapatia mikopo ya mitaji wataalamu wetu waanzishe kampuni au shughuli za uzalishaji na useambazaji bidhaa. Je wataalamu wa sekta ya fedha wana maoni gani juu ya swala hili? Kwa nini hadi sasa halijafanyiwa kazi?


7-      Enri pia katoa hoja kali kidogo akidai viongozi wengi hawana uzalendo au moyo wa utaifa. Je kuna ukweli juu ya hilo au anakata tamaa baada ya kuona kasi ya utekelezaji wa mipango ya utawala bora imekuwa pole pole. Kama ni kweli,  hajasema tufanyaje ili kuwabadili wawe na utaifa au tuwapate vipi hao wenye “utaifa” ukizingatia kuwa viongozi wanatokana na wananchi wenyewe na tumeweka misingi na kanuni za kuchagua viongozi kidemokrasia. Mwana wa kondoo ni kondoo, hawezi kuwa digidigi!


 

 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Tuesday, January 25, 2011    
 

High quality Livelihood”:”                      THE TARGETS OF THE VISION 2025


The Tanzania Vision 2025 aims at achieving a high quality livelihood for its people. Attain good governance through the rule of law and develop a strong and competitive economy. It is envisioned that the following specific achievements would be attainable by the year 2025:


The government has made progress in food security. However, I am not quite sure if the food will be sufficient to feed all Tanzanians for a period of about six months if we face famine in the country. With regard to primary education there is a lot of progress done towards this goal.


Safe water is a rare commodity in most of our villages in Tanzania. I often visit Moa and Tongoni villages in Tanzania and I have done so for the past 40 years. I have observed that the life of the people in those villages has not changed during those 40 years. They still have no safe water and are living in mud houses and they will remain so even by 2025. Most of our villages along the coast line have the same tendency .We can’t even talk about sewage system in these villages since there is nothing of the sort. Therefore their health situation is very critical indeed.


A high quality of livelihood in Europe/USA means a family has a good house, close to hospital, close to school, have tape water, good sewage system, both parents have jobs and are close to shopes,have good transport system(bus,train,cars,flights)  good roads, access to electricity, washing machines electrical cookers /gas cookers. Women don’t have to walk several kilometers to fetch fire wood or drinking water


Let us aim at such a living standard for Tanzanians by the year 2050 since we can’t attain such a standard by the year 2025


Dr.Khamis


Sweden  


 


 

 
     

Deo Mutalemwa  : Monday, January 24, 2011    
 

Dear Participants,

The first question :How much are you and the general public aware about Vision 2025? is very important for TAKNET participants to ask themselves before jumping to comment on the Vision. Close familiarity with the basic document is crucial in order to make meaningful comments. I have have been having a similar position with respect to the hot political debate on the new Constitution.

One way to test the depth of understanding and even token knowledge of the Vision is to ask key policy makers in ministries, departments and districts/regions if they can show you a copy of the Vision in their respective offices. Those ESRF researchers doing the field interviews should pose this question. Next target should be participants in workshops that will be organised to comment on ESRF draft Report. Just ask the participants to show you copies of the Vision that they have brought along at the specific workshops.

I used this methodology when reviewing familiarity with MKUKUTA several years back. The results were disappointing.

Deo Mutalemwa

 
     

Dr H.Bohela Lunogelo  : Monday, January 24, 2011    
 

Dear Contributors,
As Dr Mashindano hinted, we are also dealing with your suggestion of discussiong one topic at a time. Thank you for that suggestion. I believe its feasible to have three or parallel discussion forums going on at the same time so that people interested in political developments can be on their own, and those interested to comment on economic progress or social development or technological progress do so separately, but one can migrate from forum to another without restriction.
Dr. Lunogelo
Co-Moderator

 
     

Dr H.Bohela Lunogelo  : Monday, January 24, 2011    
  Dear Contributors,
Can we also let you know that we are working on a request to have a questionnaire for getting feedback from people who dont feel or have the time to narrate their views. That request should be done within 2 days using the latest online survet tools our ICT guys (and ladies!) can get hold of.
Otherwise I thank you all, including journalists in Dar and in the regions (e.g. Singida) who have managed to convince their editors on the newsworthy of this review such that has been covered in most of the dailies and some television stations.
Since the Vision covers a very wide spectrum of national issues, i would encourage people to comment with the objective of suggesting or offering solutions to how  we can make things work better in the next 15 years, bearing in mind that we have never been short of criticism of our weaknesses! For example, one participant wanted to know why, although the Government, in a bid to ensure that some office bearers sensitive institutions are free to executive their duties without fear or favour, were given security of tenure, have delivered as expected? This is despite the Parliament legislatiing laws to support them and ensuring their institutions are well funded. How can we correct this weakness?
Dr.Hoseana Bohela Lunogelo
Co-Moderator/Team Leader, TDV2025 Review Task: 24Jan2011 
 
     

Oswald Mashindano  : Monday, January 24, 2011    
  Dear Member!
Thank you very much for your contribution and responses on the questions we raised some few days ago. These are very useful views for this important assignment. Kelly, Omari, Paul and Japjet have brought up a number of pertinent issues on whether or not Tanzania will be able to achieve the goals and targets spelt out in the National Vision 2025 on quality of education and the awareness issues. I hope others will join them.

Please dont forget to also make your contributions on the progress made so far by existing programmes and projects, institutional framework within which our National Vision 2025 is implemented, the level of Tanzanians' patriotism (partisanship or nationalism) today compared to 10 years back, quality of health services, water, housing and sanitation, and livelihoods of Tanzanians.

To Japjet: This discussion will run for at most two months. It can be for a shorter period than that depending on the contirbutions and/or inputs we succeed to get. Your question on the language to be used is very partinent. For the time being people should feel free to make their contribution in Kiswahili. In the meantime, our sectretariat is discussing on the possibility of opening up another parallel discussion Forum in Kiswahili. We shall let you know when it is ready. The secretariat is also looking at your suggestion on taking one agenda at a time, etc. The question on donors was included because they are partners in development. They make significant contribution aimed at fostering development of our country. On whether such contributions have made any impact or not - is another question. Whether it is a relevant and useful arrangement - that is also another question to discuss!

Thank you members

Best Regards

Oswald Mashindano
Moderator
 
     

Kelly Wanda  : Monday, January 24, 2011    
 

This is in response to this issue " A Weak Economy and Low Capacity for Economic Management: The economy has remained largely untransformed. Agriculture, the backbone of the economy, continues to be dependent mainly or rainfall and on backward technology. Thus agricultural productivity is low and erratic.”

Colleagues have pointed out the fact that yes we still use the hoe; that our gold is being mined by foreign companies taking all the profits. It is really time for Africa to think hard.

In todays world it does not matter much that you have the resource in your country as long as you lack science and technology for adding value to it. And this goes for all the exports that Africa is making. We need to acquire science and technology to be able to add value to our primary goods. which takes us to the issue of education. I think we need to have a system where all our people access free secondary education. we should also have a system that identifies brilliant pupils whom the country can support and hold on to.

We need to have serious planning and seek help where we are limited. For this to happen, it is imperative that African countries know their economies well. We need to know the economy of Tanzania in terms of GNP by sector; what is Tanzania producing and what are the trends? What is Tanzania importing in terms of quantity and value and what are the trends? What is the composition of Tanzania's GDP?

To help achieve the above, it is very critical for Tanzania and indeed East Africa to set up a think tank. There are so many views that we can have and assess. Honestly, it is so easy to develop these countries and turn them around! I mean all the resources are here! If we really have a will to develop, we can make it. And this will should be seen in terms of how much the leaders of Africa ask of their citizens to participate in development issues right from policy formulation to resource allocation.

Kelly Wanda

 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Monday, January 24, 2011    
 

“A Well Educated and Learning Society”:” Tanzania envisages to be a nation whose people are ingrained with a developmental mindset and competitive spirit. These attributes are driven by education and knowledge and are critical in enabling the nation to effectively utilize knowledge in mobilizing domestic resources for assuring the provision of people's basic needs and for attaining competitiveness in the regional and global economy. Tanzania would brace itself to attain creativity, innovativeness and a high level of quality education in order to respond to development challenges and effectively compete regionally and internationally”


The above is part of the vision 2025: However, the education sector in Tanzania is facing various problem among them the lack of teachers and houses for teachers and text books. There are many secondary schools that have been built but they don’t have enough students since secondary education is very expensive for parents. If a family has three children it is very difficult to pay school fees for all three children since there are other things that have to come into consideration such as food, rent, electricity bills etc.


I have always pointed out that most of our present leaders have received free secondary school education since they were educated during the colonial era or soon after our independence in 1961.It is time for the government to think about giving free secondary education for all Tanzania children. In this way we can achieve the goal of 2025 vision of having “A WELL EDUCATED AND LEARNING SOCIETY” by 2025. At the same time we will reduce the burden of school fees to parents and also help in reducing poverty in Tanzania.


We have also to consider creating jobs for the educated society.


We are not going to achieve the vision 2025 unless the government changes its strategies, be creative in implementation and planning and its secondary education policy


Dr.Khamis


Sweden  

 
     

Kelly Wanda  : Monday, January 24, 2011    
 

Dear Colleagues.


Let me also take this opportunity to thank you for introducing this topic.  Also, its indeed great that you have gone IT, using this important resource - the internet-to enable us contribute to this important topic. The beauty of internet is that can be interactive and global. From wherever one is, one can contribute to this discussion at his/her convenient time.


I have not yet read the vision 2025 and I am going to do so in order to internalize it before commenting specifically on it.  Nevertheless, I am going to make general comments in relation to this topic.  It is about development.


I would like to differ a bit and suggest that 'YES WE CAN".  Africa has the two very important things that we need.  We have the natural resources and we have the people.  I therefore think all we need to do is to re-think our priorities, values and attitudes.  Interestingly, there is a lot that we can refer to from the developed world and adapt to our situation.


Yes we do lack capital, entreprenuership and management skills.   But I think 14 years is enough time to build these and or benefit from them if we can be innovative. For instance, we can hire management and bring in other skills so that locals can have a chance to learn.  As we do this, we can also invest heavily in our education system.  we can retool the labor that we already have.  And lastly, we can adopt good governance practices.


Africa needs to discover its comparative advantage and develop its competitiveness.  Once you get the right ingredients and policies in place, you will be amazed at the speed with which a country can grow.  Yes we can make it and lets be positive.


I will find time to read the vision and make more specific contributions please.


Happy new year to you all and great effort moderator.


Kelly

 
     

Paul John Salia  : Monday, January 24, 2011    
 


Dear Oswald.
 
I also was very happy hearing from the media that ESRF has been commissioned to do so. My hope is, they will do it objectivelly and not just to satisfy the political need.
 
I would like to take the first question you have raised i.e. on local people's awareness of National Development Vission 2025. I ma afraid that most of us will give too obvious answer that, just like the old consitution, local people are not aware of the Vision 2025. Yes, that is true. They do not even know about MKUKUTA, MKURABITA and many other national programs. However, they know about what is going on with education, health, water, the ever-rising prices of goods and services including sugar, salt, kerosine, medical expenses and so forth. They also know what has recently happened in Arusha although they may not be able to clealry associate it with good governance since that very terminology is, may be, missing in their vocabulary. Now what is my point? I would propose that ESRF should try to, perhaps, translate the National Vissioni 2025 to the very things or initiatives that have or are being implemented. Otherwise, I am afraid that the results will obviously reveal that the majority of Tanzanians, especially the local people, do not know anything about the Vission. Actually, you would be surprised that quite a number of university students do not know what the key issues in National Vission 2025 are. I am a Lecturer and I testfy to that. You will as well be very much surprised that some of those students have not even heard about the same.
 
 
I thank you Oswald for the questions you have raised. To me they are very interesting
 
Salia

 
     

japjet Makongo  : Monday, January 24, 2011    
 

Dear Dr. Mashindano,
 
Kwanza Hongera for being entrusted to coordinate this topic at this critical moment and wind of change. I wish you all well during this process.
 
Before I give my comments/views, I would like to have some clarification. How long will the debate last before you have concluded the review? Can you give us the highlights of the tor and explain the process and methodology you plan to employ? I guess this will be a usefull guide for those who wish to contribute to the debate.
 
Second, i am of the opinion that while you have give us the list of questions to respond, it would be helpful if we can debate one point or a set of related issues at a time. For example, issues of public awareness can take a week to collect and then followed by others. Given our time limitations, it is not easy to respond to all questions at one time.
 
On the list of questions, I do not understand why you want us to discuss the role of donors in implementing OUR policy. I guess the question could be directed to us as (private sector. CSOs and the government isntitutions)
 
Lastly, I suggest we use our Kiswahili for this improtant debate to get more open views.....of course those who wish to use english they are free..as for me from now on, I will be giving my views in Kiswahili.
 
Can you also post the vision for members to givenb benefity of those who want to make quick reference?
 
wishing all of us good and genuine debate
 
Makongio
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Dar es Salaam,
TANZANIA
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Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Sunday, January 23, 2011    
 

A Weak Economy and Low Capacity for Economic Management: The economy has remained largely untransformed. Agriculture, the backbone of the economy, continues to be dependent mainly or rainfall and on backward technology. Thus agricultural productivity is low and erratic.


This is true even today our farmers are not using irrigation farming methods and still use a hoe in cultivating the land and depend on seasonal rainfall. Tanzania is an agricultural country and our economy depends on agriculture. Yes we can now count on other natural resources as our gold. But  we have sold all our gold deposits to foreign mining companies at a very low price. By the time most of the mining agreements we conducted( in year 2000-2005) the gold price was at $300 (USD) but when the mining stared the price of one gram gold was at $1000(USD).Tanzania is therefore losing about $700(USD) per every gram of gold that is being mined in Tanzania. That money is being invested in countries of origin of the foreign mining companies such as Canada,Australia, South Africa, Ghana etc. Therefore our gold resources do not help in developing Tanzania and reduce poverty or changing our living standard.


This is an example of bad planning. Most of our mines will be mined out by the year 2020 and we will be left with only empty open pits filled with water.


When I started a gold mine in Sweden in 1995 the gold price was at $1000(USD) per gram gold. Why our mine experts in Tanzania could not predict such a thing before signing such agreements with foreign mining companies?


We are not going to achieve the vision 2025 unless the government changes its strategies, be creative in implementation and planning. It should also employ competitive and experience Tanzanians in exploration and mining.


Dr.Khamis


Sweden  

 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Sunday, January 23, 2011    
 

The donor dependency syndrome and a dependent and defeatist development at mindset:”The mindset of Tanzanians and their leaders has succumbed to donor dependency and has resulted in an erosion of initiative and lack of ownership of the development agenda.” This is completely true even today even our relatives in Tanzania are waiting for financial assistance from us leaving abroad. This is a big dilemma for development. People can’t trust themselves and fail to be creative. Another example comes from the government itself in handling the TRC. It has failed to trust itself in operating the TRC and waited for the help of a foreign investor that has also failed to operate TRC. In this case we are left with a deteriorating railway system. The Tanga-Korogwe-Moshi –Arusha railway line is not functioning at all. The central line-Dar es Salaam-Morogoro-Dodoma-Tabora-Kigoma has always problems and there are no sufficient locomotives. Our ports are not functioning at full capacity and always have conjunctions at Dar es Salaam harbor. Had I been the author of vision 2025 I would aim higher such as have electrified train services between Tanga-Korogwe-Morogoro-Dar es Salaam-Kigoma-/Moshi-Arusha.in this way we could effectively serve the public and boost our economy by making trade with Uganda-Rwanda and Burundi.At the same time expand the Tanga port for goods that could be transported to Uganda-Rwanda and Burundi.


Our farmers could use the railway system in transporting their products at a cheap price.


We are not going to achieve the vision 2025 unless the government changes its strategies, be creative in implementation and planning.


Dr.Khamis


Sweden  

 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Saturday, January 22, 2011    
 

 


Thanks for introducing this important topic. Many things can be written about it. However, we can all agree that we will not be able to achieve that vision by the year 2025., Most of our projects are donor dependent and our budget also has the same trend. The world economic crisis has also affected us and retarded some of our development projects.


I will return for further comments. I would like other participants to read about vision 2025 by entering into the following link:


http://www.tanzania.go.tz/vision.html


Dr.Khamis


Sweden

 
     

Oswald Mashindano  : Friday, January 21, 2011    
 
Dear members and Contributors to TAKNET,
As you have heard, the Economic and Social research Foundation (ESRF) has been assigned to undertake a review of the National Vision 2025 which has been implented since year 2000.

This is a crucial process for Tanzania given the notion that the National Vision 2025 iutlines the long-term social and economic development goals and aspirations with respect to improving quality of life, improving governance and the rule of law and transforming the conomy to a middle-income country by year 2025, and the fact that this is the first time the National Vision 2025 is subjected to a comprehensive review. Note that, in implementing this important task, and especially in collecting data and soliciting for the views and ideas of the stakeholders, ESRF employs a number of instruments inclusing the TAKNET Discussion Forums. It is therefore imparative that we participate in this discussion to enable our views and ideas be taken on board for the betterment of our country Tanzania. Remember one of the prominent and leading rallying call which goes by "Tanznia will be shaped and build by Tanzanians".

Please make your voice heard by focussing your contribution in any of the following questions:      

1.  How much are you and the general public aware about the Vision 2025?

2.  What initiatives you know that have been made to implement Vision 2025 at all levels – at ward, district, region and national levels? Can you make an assessment on the progress of implementation of the initiatives?

3.  What institutional framework you know that is in place to oversee the implementation of the vision 2025?

4.  What has been the role and influence of donors in the implementation of the Vision 2025?

5.  The Vision spells that by 2025, the quality of life of people of Tanzania, both men and women, in urban and rural areas would have markedly improved compared to the situation in 2000. What are your views on that statement regarding the status of poverty across gender and geographical areas, social value, development mind-set, moral ethics, cohesion and national pride?

6.  What is your opinion on the quality of education, health services, water, housing and sanitation in Tanzanians?

7.  How patriotic are Tanzania’s now compared 10 years back?

8.  Do you think that by 2025 Tanzania will have achieved the Vision’s goals stipulated above? If not, what do you think should be done?

Thank you for you prompt response

Oswald Mashindano
Moderator of the Discussion
 
     

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