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• A Competitive economy capable of generating sustainable growth.

Having completed 10 years in implementing the country’s long-term development framework (TDV, 2025), it is proper time to review and assess its successes, challenges and way forward. The rationale for undertaking this review is three fold:

First, by providing an overview of the relative progress that has been made in achieving each of the goals outlined in the vision, the review will provide policymakers with a better sense of where efforts and resources are required most urgently over the medium term.

Second, the review shall trace current outcomes to strategies, policies and programmes that have been put in place to achieve the Vision and shall briefly evaluate, as objectively as possible, the relevance and effectiveness of these existing approaches. The aim here is to help policy makers reflect on the efficacy of past approaches so as to identify better and more effective ways of achieving the Vision’s goals.

Lastly, following some fundamental changes occurred since 2000 both nationally and globally, the Vision’s objectives, targets, and milestones may need to be revisited.

The review process entails collection of views from different stakeholders among others. Knowing that the direction and pace of development in Tanzania will be shaped by Tanzanians, TAKNET on behalf of ESRF takes this opportunity to invite all TAKNET members and the general public to freely contribute their vital ideas and comments.

We would like to hear from you on all aspects of the Vision 2025 including:

1. How much are you and the general public aware about the Vision 2025?
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
2. What initiatives you know that have been made to implement Vision 2025 at all levels – at ward, district, region and national levels? Can you make an assessment on the progress of implementation of the initiatives?
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
3. What institutional framework you know that is in place to oversee the implementation of the vision 2025?
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
4. What has been the role and influence of donors in the implementation of the Vision 2025?
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
5. The Vision spells that by 2025, the quality of life of people of Tanzania, both men and women, in urban and rural areas would have markedly improved compared to the situation in 2000. What are your views on that statement regarding the status of poverty across gender and geographical areas, social value, development mind-set, moral ethics, cohesion and national pride?
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
6. What is your opinion on the quality of education, health services, water, housing and sanitation in Tanzanians?
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
7. How patriotic are Tanzania’s now compared 10 years back?
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
8. Do you think that by 2025 Tanzania will have achieved the Vision’s goals stipulated above? If not, what do you think should be done?

To access the Vision 2025 in full text click the following URL:

http://www.tzonline.org/pdf/theTanzaniadevelopmentvision.pdf

This topic is moderated by: Dr. H. Bohela Lunogelo, Dr. Donatila Kaino, Dr. Osward Mashindano and Mrs. Vivian Kazi

It is true that most of our leaders have emerged from CCM/TANU. Leaders of CUF, CHADEMA etc were formerly representatives of CCM. It is also a fact that Tanzania is looked at as ONE PARTY STATE where there is no democracy. We had a leader namely the late Mwalimu J.K.Nyerere who had a vision of   THE ARUSHA DECLARATION. This has been modified to vision 2025. It is also true that every single Tanzanian has his/her own future vision and that is different from the 2025 vision as described by the government. It is therefore very important to ask the 40 million Tanzanians what are their visions, try to analyse these visions and compose only ONE VISION out of their visions.

Dr.Khamis

Sweden

Dear Mr. Manyama

I could not agree with you more. Robust debate amongst leaders generally allows for leaders to emerge. These leaders tend to have a vision. There is not enough robust debate in the Tanzanian political environment as in reality from an outsiders perspective it appears as though you are a one party state, this is turn supports and maintains mediocrity.

Grant Simpson

I still have many questions as food for thought … are we talking about people’s vision 2025 or leader’s vision 2025? Are they the same! How do we make sure that people’s vision is the same as leader’s vision? So, what is the core problem facing Tanzanians today? Is it lack of leaders and poor leadership and/or vision?

Looking back to 1995, the President by then asked Tanzanian experts to draft the Vision 2025. Those who drafted the Vision 2025 in 1996 - 1998 did an excellent job. However, the truth is that there has been no “champion or leadership” to translate the Vision 2025 into serious implementable programmes. MKUKUTA reviews in 2009/10, clearly revealed that Tanzania has inadequate implementation capacity and weak leadership at all levels.  

It is weak leadership in Tanzania at all levels that has made the vision 2025 useless. In my view, I don’t think that by reviewing the Vision 2025, we will achieve the development results we want … because the root problem is not about the vision itself. The root problem is leadership ... and not the Vision 2025.

It is well documented in thousands of books and research work that leaders need to have a clear vision to lead and inspire their people in the right direction of development (change) … as we are contributing to the review of the vision can we also seriously look at the leadership issue? Vision cannot be imposed on leaders who have no vision. Effort should be directed to reviewing systems/process (political, social, etc) that breed leaders and leadership.

 A.      Manyama.

I have been predicting   on the use of our enormous gas deposits in a better way. As an example our buses and even personal cars can use gas instead of petrol/diesel. In this way the government can save a lot of money   and stop importation of oil or reduce to a minimum level. Certain buses in Stockholm for example are using gas (especially town buses) and some personal cars also use gas.

Such things should be taken in the Vision 2025.Mp’s are just complaining in the Parliament but are failing to give suggestions of using our own natural resources in order to solve our problems! What sorts of MP’s are these, they have to come with a solution to solve countries’ problem. Sounding an alarm in Parliament on the poor state of oil production the world, Wawi MP Hamadi Rashid Mohammed said if no urgent measures were taken Tanzanians would be forced to brace up for tough life ahead.

The former leader of the opposition camp in Parliament called on the government to start importing oil in bulk immediately a stand PM Pinda had already accepted based on the MP’s request.”

“Dr.Khamis

Sweden

I have also questioned about the food reserves in the country that it is not enough. The food reserve should be able to feed all 40 million Tanzanians for a period of about one year. This is not the case.” There are indications that Tanzania would be hard hit by food crisis unless most parts of the country receive average rains that normally start in the middle of next month.

 This reporter has noted that maize plants on farms along Dar es Salaam – Dodoma highway have begun drying up as a result of scarcity of rains.

The situation is bad even in famous maize production areas such as Kibaigwa  in Dodoma Region.  Neighbouring Kiteto in Manyara Region is also reported to be experiencing similar conditions.

A Kiteto resident Musa Haroun speaking to this paper in Dodoma said: “The government says there is   food reserve in the country, based on last season’s harvest but in my assessment the situation will be appalling this year ”We are now facing a reality “NO RAIN NO FOOD” and we have enormous volumes of water flowing daily into the Indian Ocean from our rivers. Such thins have to be considered in the Vision 2025. Tanzania cannot afford such ignorance of not using water from our lakes and rivers for irrigation farming.

Dr.Khamis
Sweden

“ If we are serious in implementing  the ‘Kilimo Kwanza’ programme,  each individual farmer must be given a single power tiller - not a single power tiller to a group of farmers,” said Mufindi South MP Menrad Kigola."

There is alo a food shortage now in the country!

Dr.Khamis
Sweden

Thanks Dr Khamis for observation on GMO. Yes there is a mindset that GMO is for animal feed, and probably not for human consumption.

In another dimension, there are researches done on crop for them to become more resistant to diseases, pest, drought or for the maize plant to bear several cobs ….. Thus, the genes are tempered in a way to make the plant become resistant to such problems. To me this is a kind of GMO I am talking about and I think are of more beneficial to farmers because they improve productivity and at the same time reduce risk agaist diseases or pest.

Developed countries such as US and even South Africa, raise these kind of genetic Modified cereals , of which they give us when we fall short of cereals or hunger. They don’t have our traditional breed which mostly have low productivity.  I think we can collaborate with them in researches to get improved breeds that could help us improve productivity and eventually farmers livelihood.

Kabuje

Thanks Mr.Manyama for informing us that only 40 studies were conducted in order to review all aspects of MKUKUTA I. If each our gold mines in Tanzania were based by selecting only 40 samples from each mine our investors would have refused to put their money at risk.

I have myself conducted  research on ore deposit(gold,copper,zink,silver,lead )  in Sweden(10 mine deposits),Saudi Arabia (2 gold deposits), Chile(The largest Copper deposit with 100 years mile life time),Burkina Farso  (Zink-lead deposit), Finland (Nickel deposit) and Tanzania (Mbeya carbonatite deposit, which is now mined and have Mbeya Cement Factory) In each of the mentioned deposits I treated between 1000 to 6000 sample results. I also applied geo-statistics in evaluating these deposits.

My studies on Mbeya were used by Skanska Cement of Sweden (on my permission via my Professor) before constructing the Mbeya Cement Factory.(You can find my research report at the University of Dar es Salaam, STAMICO-Dar es Salaam and Seruji Office)

The life of 40 million Tanzanians is based only on 40 studies of reviewing MKUKUTA I. What is the mean and the standard deviation of these 40 studies? Can you plot a normal curve of your distribution of your 40 samples?

Scientifically, each and every village in Tanzania should have made an evaluation of MKUKUTA I and send evaluation report to those dealing with MKUKUTA I. All our University and Secondary   school students could be asked to give their views concerning MKUKUTA I. All this information could be employed not only in MKUKUTA II but also in the Vision 2025.

Probably by 2050 our villagers will move to big towns and leave empty villages as is the case in Europe now!

Dr.Khamis

Sweden

Dear all,

In 2009/2010, in addition to the regular PHDR, MDGR, MAIR, etc, they were about 40 studies to review various aspects of MKUKUTA I, I am not sure what evaluation report is needed?

Amon

Thanks Mr.Furaha for your contribution on agriculture. We actually need to change the way our farming is conducted. We have to employ a sort of mixed farming and that is our farmers should have both crops and livestock and could able to use modern technology Irrigation farming is very important for us and don’t have to depend on rain. Tanzania has several big lakes and rivers. It is actually a shame for us to depend on the periodical rain.

Farmers in Denmark grow the Genetically Modified Maize only to be used by their animals Therefore there is still a lot of research to be conducted in this field. Our Universities could engage in such research projects.

Dr.Khamis

Sweden

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This is to say that  the MKUKUTA phase I evaluation report should have been discussed before embarking in drafting phase II.  The vision 2025 has very good overview of the challenges of the past vision, but I am not convinced that we have worked out on that, because we face similar challenges and some of them have been magnified under the current situation.

An assessment of the past vision shows that Tanzania have development propensity to prepare pronounce plans and programme and ambitions which are not by effective implementation, monitoring and evaluation mechanism as a result implementation has been weak. I am seen the same shortcomings todate when we are assessing the 10 years of the vision 2025, and the situation seems to be not changing.

 Certainly MDAs have been underscoring the role of Monitoring and evaluation in terms of capacity building and financial resource allocation or implementing its activities. This has been very serious problem especially at LGAs level. At least I can speak for the Agriculture Sector (at LGA level) that until recently, there were very limited Monitoring and Evaluation activities going on. However todate there are monitoring and evaluation officers for agriculture but very limited resource is allocated and they have not been trained to understand and conduct evaluation of agricultural projects effectively. 

My suggestion is, lets create a post for competent officer dealing with monitoring and evaluation at LGA level instead of treating as additional responsibility to any officer. At National level MDAs have section dealing with evaluation but more emphasis need to be directed to increasing resource and capacity building.  

Another thing is about dissemination of the results for public scrutiny, at least now days some report are available for public use at ward, village and district level. But the public need to be sensitized more on the importance of those reports.

Thanks
Kabuje Furaha

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1.    In addition lets invest heavily in irrigation by supporting good infrastructure and capital, even in small area where we will have few farmers producing highly, and probably employ others. We can have few farmer who will be example for tother to emulate. The same can be done in livestock through injecting capital to existing few farmers or farms who will provide demonstration to others. Lets adopt quality livestock breeds with very high productivity, I am sure the traditional livestock farming (of having large number of cattle without selling) will not be entertained.

2.     I also would like to emphasize the importance of result based monitoring and evaluation in the sector and MDAs at large. Mwiru (and Khamis) posed very important question on whether we have done enough evaluation of MKUKUTA I and taken into account of the evaluation results to use them in planning for MKUKUTA phase II. Yes, there are few annual and biannual report development report such as PHDR which oversee some aspect of MKUKUTA, but the question is, with these few results of assessment, are they used for management and decision making in MKUKUTA pahse II? I understand monitoring was undertaken during MKUKUTA I implementation, but were the results of Monitoring results/recommendation used timely?

Kabuje Furaha

Dear colleague,

I would like to air my views in the aspect of agriculture versus Vision 2025 and ineffective implementation sysdrome. 

The vision 2025 has acknowledged the role of agriculture towards better livelihood. More than 80% of Tanzanian population rely on farming activities for their daily income and food requirement. In other words, if we would have manage to solve the farmers constraints, then we are sure of better livelihood to them or rather attain middle income country. My argument here is, the agriculture sector could be a vehicle toward better livelihood.  Based on the figures of year 2000 todate,  the growth of agriculture sector has been on the declining trend since 2006. Its contribution to overall GDP has also been declining from about 50% to 25% (even using the revised national accounts).

Another question is, …has the situation improved at micro level (small holder farmers)?

Certainly the financial, human resource allocation has been on the increasing trend, however the output realized is too small. Figures shows slightly improvement in terms of productivity for some crop especially in irrigation areas, but overall the situation has not improved, and its unlikely to achieve the vision goals with this pace.

I don’t like to dwell on what or where we went wrong because some members have mentioned, however I would like to come up with the following suggestion;

1.    Using the irrigation potential of which we have between 300,000 to 400,000 hectares, we have seen slightly productivity improvement, but if we could adopt the Genetic Modified seeds (GMO) we are sure of increasing productivity more than six times. The country who save us during hunger, uses this technology together with irrigation to have surplus cereals. What about us? Are we taking measures to learn the advantage of GMO. I think, it’s a high time we change our mindset about GMO and get rid of traditional seeds!!!. We can use local technology or import improved seeds which have research under our local environmental and use it….. in this way, we can help the 80% population attain better livelihood in terms of food security and gain excess income derived from surplus harvest.
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3. Jamani kuna very key sectors ambazo zinahitaji competent people with certain skills, but in our country we even disappoint our donors, unaweza kukuta sehemu anatakiwa akae economist badala yake yupo sociologist au engineer, what do we expect?

4. What the so called Think Tanks kwenye MDAs is a very good idea but i thought the compositions should include academia, researchers, key NGOs representaive ambao they meet on quarterly or whatever frequency to bring up new ideas and innovations and guide the way foraward. I am not saying kwamba MDAs hawawezi lakini kutoka na point ya hapo juu kuhusu positions, i think this could be revisited and include few people from key institutions, especially those engaging in reaserch all the time,they have new ideas. Lakini mtu wa wizara anafanya research saa ngapi, kinachotokea unaweza kukuta kwamba we heavily rely on our donors to drive the process, they impose or copy and paste approaches from experience in other countries which do not necessarily work in Tanzania.r

5. Change of the culture to results orientation, lets orient and reinforce manage for results culture. We cannot continue just implement activities,train,travel,. we should have this shift from traditional M&E to results oriented such that everything we do should have a certain impact

6. Strong Communication which do not only print leaflets but which ensure they make sense of it and devise other communication channels as they current ones seem to have little impact

7. MDAs, LGAs, stakeholders should align their work to MKUKUTAII. and they should be tasked to review their SPs now. A mechanism to conduct annual MDAs review is critical

Tunazunguka mikoani kuwasumbua wananchi kuwauliza maendeleo ya V2025 ni kuwasunbua, kupoteza resources and it is not acceptaced at all. if the aim is gauge their understanding labda but progress ya V2025 to wananchi i consider it as an insult to them

Mr moderator apologies if I went offtrack a bit but for me the vision is going to be realized by these instruments which we are not doing that well now.

Thank you
Mwiru

Wana TAKNET naungana na ndugu yangu Furaha katika hili na naomba niongezee kidogo pia kama ifuatavyo:

As we know the vision is to be realized by other instruments, the major one being MKUKUTA! All sectors including donors are theoretically supposed to align their work with MKUKUTA priorities. If you do a quick review you will find very few MDAs, INGO, CSOs, etc align their work. This makes it difficult to have a coordinated concerted efforts  towards achieving the set results. It is even very difficult to monitor and evaluate. YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE MKUKUTA II WAS DEVELOPED LAST YEAR WITHOUT EVALUATION OF MKUKUTA I. How do you learn from the past and adjust??? This is business as usual, How do we expect to be a middle income country by 2015 if even the culture of evaluation is not there.

The annual MKUKUTA progress reports are being edited from year to the other with indicators from the big surveys done after 4 or five years eg THMIS, TDHS. So for five years MKUKUTA I progress report aka MAIR reported Maternal Mortality Ratio of 578/100,000 for five years. We dont have annualized targets which are inline with the five years ones  to measure progress with the aim that after five years we will have reduced MMR. So i consider this as a wastage of resources, and elites, researchers are to be blaimed on this. they come with these ideas for the aim of earning money honestly. If you critically review MKUKUTA related reports or progress reports, i will mention few MAIR, Hali halisi, PHDR, Peoples views (we go to collect data on peoples view on MKUKUTA vijijini wakati hata mjini kwenyewe tena Mawizarani hawaujui), and other sectoral related reports consume handsomely huge amount of money and if you critically review they report same progress, data from previous surve ys and the information is slightly alterd.

Dear members,
I have been following this great discussion and indeed,i do agree with majority of  the discussant on the challenges of fulfilling the development vision 2025.Tanzania is not an island, or were not locked in a room where the outside environment doesn't affect us, If USA is crying for unemployment rate why not Tanzania? Employment is not about a monthly wage,it is about what a person should do for earning.It is time now to prepare our minds for self-employment.

Therefore   let us aim at

1.      Reliable electricity to all villages and towns in Tanzania by 2025.We can use , gas coal,solar and hydropower.

2.      Good railway lines, better major roads so that farmers can easily transport their products.

3.      Lift our standard of living by using gas cookers, electrical cookers so that our women don’t have to rely on fire wood.

4.      Let us build good and modern houses in our villages and our towns.

5.      Let us aim of delivering clear water to all Tanzanians by 2025.We can even desalt our sea water to reach this goal. If Saudi Arabia can do it why not us?

6.      Let us create jobs for our graduates so that they can join us in building this nation.

Dr.khamis

Sweden

I do agree with Mr.Sima that IT won’t help at this moment as a teaching method in our primary and secondary education. IT will require a need of IT-Office in every school so that the technology will run smoothly. It will also add other costs like computer for every student. Well in Scandinavia we teach computer knowledge like Microsoft Excel, Word, Power Point and Access in our secondary schools. But we have teachers or a consultant company  that has taken this job in schools

Let us just keep the IT at our universities as an experiment   We all know that electricity is a major problem hindering our development. All those developed countries e.g. Scandinavia have a reliable electricity that is being distributed even in a remote village .That is why they can even afford having electrical trains, industries, mines and good infrastructure They are using both hydroelectric power, wind mills(Denmark, Sweden)  and Nuclear reactors to produce electricity. Therefore   let us aim at

Dr.khamis

Sweden

Wana maendeleo, naomba nami nichangia kuhusu uboreshaji wa elimu nchini kwa teknohama

Hili ni wazo zuri katika mazingira yasio sahihi. Coverage ya umeme hasa vijijini bado ni ndogo mno.

It may be cost effective and we could have better outcomes if we invest that money which was meant for ICT to train masses of teachers. The experience has shown that if wananchi are mobilized they can construct nyumba za walimu na serikali ikatoa mishara na mafunzo yao.  Watoto wengi vijijini wa shule  kiingereza hawajui, ICT itasolve hii? Let us assume that the programme will be Swahili which I doubt and this means another huge project!  how do they search materials na kuona this is a relevant reference. Wadau hata sisi ambao tumemaliza hivyo vyuo vikuu watu bado hawawezi kusearch information ambayo inatoka kwa reliable source. Hata kama wata customize hizo syllabus vizuri kwenye computer, swala linabaki kwamba instructors wanatakiwa.

Kama desktop moja inauzwa  say 500,000 na shule moja inahitaji 20, that is 10,000,000.  Hii 10,000,000 inatosha kununua vitabu vya hesabu kwa bei ya 5000 mia 200. Hapa si tutapunguza tatizo la vitabu?  Hapa hatujazungumzia other related accessories UPS, back up, internet connectivity, mtaalamu wa IT kwa kila shule, generator, mafuta ya generator ambako hakuna umeme ambako ndo pakubwa zaidi. The issue here is that our decision makers dont do their home work well, they are driven na one- off projects ambazo they never pilot even,just kwa sababu mtu anakuwa anajua cha kwake katika hiyo project.

Ushauri: It would be nice to test the idea in urban areas where at least we have some ICT infrastructure, and roll out slowly ensuring monitoring and evaluation is effective and we continuously learn and adjust as we go. The rest of the budget if already budgeted for iende kufundisha waalim na kununua vitabu Hivi serikali inashindwaje kuongea na akina Sabodos na kuwaambia tuna tatizo hili tusaidie million mia, inaonaje aibu kuomba nyumbani inaenda nje kulia njaa? Kwa mfano makampuni ya simu yanaendesha droo/Bahati nasibu za nyumba mpaka za mia 200 na ni kwa ajili ya mtu mmoja au magari ya million  100 sijui mangapi kwa mwaka. Hivi serikali ikiwaapproach wao taratibu na kuwaambia jamani tuna tatizo hili la elimu na misaada yenu hii itakuwa na impact sana kama tukifanya hivi ambako tumekwama labda wapool pesa kwa ajili ya elimu. Hawa watakubali bila shaka, wakati wananchi wanahamasishwa kwamba watume hizo sms zinasaidia maendeleo! Ni lazilema kuwe na results na sio misuse of the resources tena. Mwisho wa siku tunarudi kwenye good governance, uwajibikaji, uzalendo nk.

Rwanda ambao wame adopt One Laptop per Child (OLPC) wameanza kwa ku-pilot kwanza, and these are the people who are taking very bold decisions and mechanisms to do so are in place, ukicheza wakutoa, hapa kwetu je, ukichemsha wanakuhamisha wizara au wanakutetea.

While we don’t don’t want to lag behind the technology, but we need to plan it careful for greater outcomes/results

Mwiru Sima

Hi Joseph kayange

I am impressed by your inspiration

take the opportunity now and do not wauit for God's wishes bwana. Go ahead and organize radi/tv talks now..it is a relevant topic and inout into the katiba debate. let those wazee wanaoendesha vipindi kama makwaia wateme cheche.

Mr Robert, hicho kitabu kinapatikana wapi?

Nashukuru Dr.Lunogelo kwa kuniunga mkono kuhusu ada ya shule na uzito ambao inawapa wazazi hususan wale ambao wana vipato vidogo. Mimi mwenyewe nilishughulika kulipa ada za shule za ndugu zangu halafu pia nikaendelea kulipa ada za shule za watoto wao wakati nafanya kazi Sweden.

Pia namuunga mkono Kabuje Furaha kwamba Kilimo cha kwanza na Mukukuta pia ni moja wapo ya Vision 2025.Mambo yote haya yana lengo moja la kuboresha maisha ya watanzania.Vitu vingi ambavyo vimo katika Mkukuta vimo katika Vision 2025.

Kweli Vision 2025 isiwe tu ni lengo la serikali bali liwe ni lengo la Watanzania wote.Lazima tushiriki katika kuinua maisha yetu.

Dr.khamis
Sweden

Dkt Lunogelo na wanaTaknet wote,
Nichangie suala la IT kusaidia kupunguza tatizo katika shule zetu nchini. Kimsingi na kinadharia zaidi usambazaji wa mtandao huo unaweza kusadia, lakini katika mazingira yetu nadhani kama kawaida tumepika sauce hata mchele hatujanunua!

Nadhani we are falling into other people's plans where there is very little for us if any. Mtandao umewekwa na utakamilika, mwenye tenda atalipwa,teknolojia ya mawasiliano inahitajika lakini je kilikuwa ndiyo kipaumbele kwa sasa?

Je teknolojia hiyo inahimili vipi changamoto kama za umeme wa mgao? Je tumeandaa wataalam wa kuongoza kwenye eneo hilo?nina mfano wa wanafunzi rafiki zangu wa chuo kikuu wanapata shida kweli kweli kutafuta 'materials' mtandaoni!

Changamoto za elimu yetu zinajulikana,ni kubwa na ngumu, hata hivyo njia mkato sio rahisi kusaidia kwa faida. Kufundisha walimu wengi na bora zaidi itasaidia. Teknolojia hiyo itumike vyuoni zaidi kuwekeza huko itakuwa cost effective zaidi.

Jamani isitoshe ajira ya ualimu ndiyo inayotubeba wengi, ukikimbilia teknolojia hiyo kufundishia, wengi tutakosa kazi, utakuwa umekuza tatizo baya zaidi la uhaba wa ajira, bomu'
Ahsanteni,
Adam

I have been reading these postscripts for long and remained quiet. Guys what you argue are wonderful. I am a journalist and discussions like these impresses me much. Currently 

If God wishes one day we might have a series of TV or Radio programmes for this topic. Give me time to talk to my boses.

Hi wadau wa maendeleo: Napenda kuelaza kuwa pamoja na kusoma vision 2025 kiundani sana, watu wengi watabaki bila kuelewa kiupana inataka nini. Hivyo basi ni vema pia wakasoma kitabu kinachoitwa Composite of  development vision 2025. Ni kitabu kizuri ambacho asilimia 100 kianaeleza kipi kifanyike hadi kufikia 2025.
 Asanteni sana.
 Mdau wa maendeleo

Dear Taknet Members,

I agree with some of contributors that lack of awareness on Vision 2025 has been very low, even at the central and local government level. And therefore threatens achievement   of the vision 2025 targets.  I am working with the central government in the agricultural planning unit, when this topic on Vision 2025 was introduced, I decided had to refresh my memory by searching for hard copy of the vision 2025! Deo guessed right… I missed it (no where to be found, and I decided to search in the internet), certainly this is because lack of awareness if not ownership of the vision. Yes, I realize that I have many books, but not vision 2025…  So when you go down to the village and ward level, I think similar situation could be observed!!!

This example is to say that, the level of awareness from the common man to the MDAs planning unit has been low, and Vision 2025 ownership could is extremely low. With situation, are integrating our planning from the family/business and public level?

So we have this assignment to increase awareness/sensitize the vision 2025 always. Moreover the vision 2025 should not be seen as government item/entity, but should be seen as national vision, encompassing all group of the community!!. Lets have more copies of the National Vision 2025 at all level and often times be part of our discussion. When we talk of Kilimo kwanza, MKUKUTA, ASDP, and other programs , they should be sensitized as a part of effort to attain Vision 2025.

I will be back to internalize on other issues

Kabuje

Angomilwe Fungo (tar28jan11) aliahidi kuwa baada ya kuisoma vizuri Dira ya Maenedelo angekuja na hoja za ziada. Sijui kama ameisoma ili tumkaribishe aendelee na hoja zake?
Luno

I do agree with Mr.Imani that there is a great need of revising the education in Universities and Secondary Schools in Tanzania. After 10 to 15 years Tanzania is going to reach the current situation now experienced in Europe. The graduates leaving both universities and secondary schools will be unemployed and have a loan to pay. In Europe we have a sort of unemployment fund from the social department in every EU country .Therefore these unemployed graduates can get financial help in order to pay house rent and to buy food. However, we don’t have this type of social help in Tanzania or in any AU-country.

We have to offer a sort of “applied education” in Tanzania. We have to put our efforts in science subjects (Maths, Chemistry, Biology and Physics) so that we can produce different type of engineers, doctors and other scientists.

Dr.Khamis

Sweden

Dr Lunogela,
binafsi ningependa kuchangia hoja za bwana Enri kama ifuatavyo.
 
kwanza kabisa nilisoma vision25 siku nyingi kidogo na sasa nimejiwekea homework ya kuisoma yote weekend hii. then i will come back to answer the qtn je tatafika 2025 kama vision2025 inavotaka?
katiba mya, hoja #7 ya Enri.

ni muhimu tena ni lazima kuwa na katiba mpya ili tuweze kusonga mbele, mipango mizuri inayowekwa inakosa kufanyika na kufuatiliwa kwa sababu ya kuwa na mianya ya uzembe na rushwa na hatimaye kukosa kabisa ufuatiliaji na mwelekeo.
ndani ya katiba mpya kuwe na chujio la vipengele vya kuwapima na kuwapata viongozi bora, ili kwamba 2pate viongozi bora. misingi ya utawala bora na miiko ya viongozi iwekwe humo tena iwe chapter One.
uzalendo na moyo wa utaifa unaanzia nyumbani, je wazazi tunaongea nini na watoto wetu huhusu taifa hili, kuhusu kazi? je shuleni watoto wanafundishwa nini?
Serikali ielekeze nguvu zake kwenye Mambo Makuu (security, infrastructure&education). hoja#2&5.
Kama serekali itawekeza kwenye barabara,umeme na elimu ni wazi kuwa kazi zitapatikana toka mashambani mpaka viwandani.

vijana vijiweni watapungua, watafanya kazi, na kupata kipato halmashauri zitatoza ushuru kwa shughuli izo za kiuchumi wafanyazo vijana. pesa iyo itarudi tena kuboresha barabara, umeme na elimu.

Ushirikishwaji wananchi kwenye kuunda dira.
hapa ndio mgogoro mama ulipo, kwa nini wananchi hawajashirikiswa kikamilifu? kuna vision ya taifa si ishuke sasa mikoani mpaka wilayani then vijijini? mbona bado iko DSM? inasubiri nini uko?
kama wananchi wangeshirikishwa kikamilifu toka mwanzo basi ungekuta sasa tuko mbali kabisa.
 
thans, standby.
 
 

Dear all,

Hereunder is my further contribution on the quality of education, which is so much given weight in the Vision 2025

 “Tanzania would brace itself to attain creativity, innovativeness and a high level of quality education in order to respond to development challenges and effectively compete regionally and internationally, cognizant of the reality that competitive leadership in the 21^st century will hinge on the level and quality of education and knowledge. To this effect, Tanzania should:
Be a nation with high quality of education at all levels; a nation which produces the quantity and quality of educated people sufficiently equipped with the requisite knowledge to solve the society's problems, meet the challenges of development and attain competitiveness at regional and global levels”.

I quite agree with the above quotation from Vision 2025. In deed high quality education is important, as they well put it, in addressing this century’s challenges including regional and international competition. To this aspect, I would say, the government and the private sector have demonstrated a sense of commitment. Each of you has witnessed increased universities (including UDOM), colleges, secondary and primary schools, baby schools etc. However, one of the things that we should worry about is the quality of education, which is so much emphasized in the above quotation. Sometimes, I tend to think that in term of quality we are just moving to the opposite direction. Secondary schools have been constructed in each ward and as a consequence the enrollment has kept going up. But I remember one case reported in the media from Arusha where a form three student could not read and write well. Another story was of my relative’s son who could not read and write well but passed to join the so called ‘ward secondary schools’. Yet another story is one I currently saw in the media about one primary school in Dar es Salaam where pupils were sitting on the floor. With these three examples and many others that you know, there is an urgent need to question the quality of education in view of assessing whether it is the kind of education that we need to be able to compete regionally and internationally.

The last thing I would like to bring up in this discussion is about the growing class polarization regarding access to social services including education. Particularly I would refer to secondary and primary education systems. I do appreciate the involvement of the private sector in providing education but may question the outcome of their involvement. In the mornings when you are rushing to your office you will see children boarding school busses, others in their parents’ cars and yet others are trying to cross the roads footing to their schools. Sometimes all these children reside in the same street at the neighborhood. The picture will tell you that the society is already polarized in terms of access to quality education. In the private schools, where you and I take our children, there are enough and qualified teachers, there are enough books, enough desks etc. In most, if not all, of the public (twende sote) schools these things are missing. What do you expect as a result? Is education being provided in the public schools going to impart students with the needed entrepreneurship skills? Are the poor people’s children going to be able to fight their poverty with the kind of education they are entitled with? I am afraid that we are preparing a two-classes society which will make it difficult to even realize peace in the future.

Dear Mashindano,
I read your mail and learned that it is about a pertinent issue of our country and economy in particular.
I suggest that we can take it to students as well and redisgn a kind of questionnaire addressing the issues  you raised.
I am in SAUT and I will do that pending your approval.
Dr. I Safari

“High quality Livelihood”:”                      THE TARGETS OF THE VISION 2025

The Tanzania Vision 2025 aims at achieving a high quality livelihood for its people. Attain good governance through the rule of law and develop a strong and competitive economy. It is envisioned that the following specific achievements would be attainable by the year 2025:

The government has made progress in food security. However, I am not quite sure if the food will be sufficient to feed all Tanzanians for a period of about six months if we face famine in the country. With regard to primary education there is a lot of progress done towards this goal.

Safe water is a rare commodity in most of our villages in Tanzania. I often visit Moa and Tongoni villages in Tanzania and I have done so for the past 40 years. I have observed that the life of the people in those villages has not changed during those 40 years. They still have no safe water and are living in mud houses and they will remain so even by 2025. Most of our villages along the coast line have the same tendency .We can’t even talk about sewage system in these villages since there is nothing of the sort. Therefore their health situation is very critical indeed.

A high quality of livelihood in Europe/USA means a family has a good house, close to hospital, close to school, have tape water, good sewage system, both parents have jobs and are close to shopes,have good transport system(bus,train,cars,flights)  good roads, access to electricity, washing machines electrical cookers /gas cookers. Women don’t have to walk several kilometers to fetch fire wood or drinking water

Let us aim at such a living standard for Tanzanians by the year 2050 since we can’t attain such a standard by the year 2025

Dr.Khamis

Sweden  

Dear Participants,

The first question :How much are you and the general public aware about Vision 2025? is very important for TAKNET participants to ask themselves before jumping to comment on the Vision. Close familiarity with the basic document is crucial in order to make meaningful comments. I have have been having a similar position with respect to the hot political debate on the new Constitution.

One way to test the depth of understanding and even token knowledge of the Vision is to ask key policy makers in ministries, departments and districts/regions if they can show you a copy of the Vision in their respective offices. Those ESRF researchers doing the field interviews should pose this question. Next target should be participants in workshops that will be organised to comment on ESRF draft Report. Just ask the participants to show you copies of the Vision that they have brought along at the specific workshops.

I used this methodology when reviewing familiarity with MKUKUTA several years back. The results were disappointing.

Deo Mutalemwa

Dear Contributors,
As Dr Mashindano hinted, we are also dealing with your suggestion of discussiong one topic at a time. Thank you for that suggestion. I believe its feasible to have three or parallel discussion forums going on at the same time so that people interested in political developments can be on their own, and those interested to comment on economic progress or social development or technological progress do so separately, but one can migrate from forum to another without restriction.
Dr. Lunogelo
Co-Moderator

This is in response to this issue " A Weak Economy and Low Capacity for Economic Management: The economy has remained largely untransformed. Agriculture, the backbone of the economy, continues to be dependent mainly or rainfall and on backward technology. Thus agricultural productivity is low and erratic.”

Colleagues have pointed out the fact that yes we still use the hoe; that our gold is being mined by foreign companies taking all the profits. It is really time for Africa to think hard.

In todays world it does not matter much that you have the resource in your country as long as you lack science and technology for adding value to it. And this goes for all the exports that Africa is making. We need to acquire science and technology to be able to add value to our primary goods. which takes us to the issue of education. I think we need to have a system where all our people access free secondary education. we should also have a system that identifies brilliant pupils whom the country can support and hold on to.

We need to have serious planning and seek help where we are limited. For this to happen, it is imperative that African countries know their economies well. We need to know the economy of Tanzania in terms of GNP by sector; what is Tanzania producing and what are the trends? What is Tanzania importing in terms of quantity and value and what are the trends? What is the composition of Tanzania's GDP?

To help achieve the above, it is very critical for Tanzania and indeed East Africa to set up a think tank. There are so many views that we can have and assess. Honestly, it is so easy to develop these countries and turn them around! I mean all the resources are here! If we really have a will to develop, we can make it. And this will should be seen in terms of how much the leaders of Africa ask of their citizens to participate in development issues right from policy formulation to resource allocation.

Kelly Wanda

“A Well Educated and Learning Society”:” Tanzania envisages to be a nation whose people are ingrained with a developmental mindset and competitive spirit. These attributes are driven by education and knowledge and are critical in enabling the nation to effectively utilize knowledge in mobilizing domestic resources for assuring the provision of people's basic needs and for attaining competitiveness in the regional and global economy. Tanzania would brace itself to attain creativity, innovativeness and a high level of quality education in order to respond to development challenges and effectively compete regionally and internationally”

The above is part of the vision 2025: However, the education sector in Tanzania is facing various problem among them the lack of teachers and houses for teachers and text books. There are many secondary schools that have been built but they don’t have enough students since secondary education is very expensive for parents. If a family has three children it is very difficult to pay school fees for all three children since there are other things that have to come into consideration such as food, rent, electricity bills etc.

I have always pointed out that most of our present leaders have received free secondary school education since they were educated during the colonial era or soon after our independence in 1961.It is time for the government to think about giving free secondary education for all Tanzania children. In this way we can achieve the goal of 2025 vision of having “A WELL EDUCATED AND LEARNING SOCIETY” by 2025. At the same time we will reduce the burden of school fees to parents and also help in reducing poverty in Tanzania.

We have also to consider creating jobs for the educated society.

We are not going to achieve the vision 2025 unless the government changes its strategies, be creative in implementation and planning and its secondary education policy

Dr.Khamis

Sweden  

Dear Colleagues.

Let me also take this opportunity to thank you for introducing this topic.  Also, its indeed great that you have gone IT, using this important resource - the internet-to enable us contribute to this important topic. The beauty of internet is that can be interactive and global. From wherever one is, one can contribute to this discussion at his/her convenient time.

I have not yet read the vision 2025 and I am going to do so in order to internalize it before commenting specifically on it.  Nevertheless, I am going to make general comments in relation to this topic.  It is about development.

I would like to differ a bit and suggest that 'YES WE CAN".  Africa has the two very important things that we need.  We have the natural resources and we have the people.  I therefore think all we need to do is to re-think our priorities, values and attitudes.  Interestingly, there is a lot that we can refer to from the developed world and adapt to our situation.

Yes we do lack capital, entreprenuership and management skills.   But I think 14 years is enough time to build these and or benefit from them if we can be innovative. For instance, we can hire management and bring in other skills so that locals can have a chance to learn.  As we do this, we can also invest heavily in our education system.  we can retool the labor that we already have.  And lastly, we can adopt good governance practices.

Africa needs to discover its comparative advantage and develop its competitiveness.  Once you get the right ingredients and policies in place, you will be amazed at the speed with which a country can grow.  Yes we can make it and lets be positive.

I will find time to read the vision and make more specific contributions please.

Happy new year to you all and great effort moderator.

Kelly

Dear Oswald.
 
I also was very happy hearing from the media that ESRF has been commissioned to do so. My hope is, they will do it objectivelly and not just to satisfy the political need.
 
I would like to take the first question you have raised i.e. on local people's awareness of National Development Vission 2025. I ma afraid that most of us will give too obvious answer that, just like the old consitution, local people are not aware of the Vision 2025. Yes, that is true. They do not even know about MKUKUTA, MKURABITA and many other national programs. However, they know about what is going on with education, health, water, the ever-rising prices of goods and services including sugar, salt, kerosine, medical expenses and so forth. They also know what has recently happened in Arusha although they may not be able to clealry associate it with good governance since that very terminology is, may be, missing in their vocabulary. Now what is my point? I would propose that ESRF should try to, perhaps, translate the National Vissioni 2025 to the very things or initiatives that have or are being implemented. Otherwise, I am afraid that the results will obviously reveal that the majority of Tanzanians, especially the local people, do not know anything about the Vission. Actually, you would be surprised that quite a number of university students do not know what the key issues in National Vission 2025 are. I am a Lecturer and I testfy to that. You will as well be very much surprised that some of those students have not even heard about the same.
 
 
I thank you Oswald for the questions you have raised. To me they are very interesting
 
Salia

Dear Dr. Mashindano,
 
Kwanza Hongera for being entrusted to coordinate this topic at this critical moment and wind of change. I wish you all well during this process.
 
Before I give my comments/views, I would like to have some clarification. How long will the debate last before you have concluded the review? Can you give us the highlights of the tor and explain the process and methodology you plan to employ? I guess this will be a usefull guide for those who wish to contribute to the debate.
 
Second, i am of the opinion that while you have give us the list of questions to respond, it would be helpful if we can debate one point or a set of related issues at a time. For example, issues of public awareness can take a week to collect and then followed by others. Given our time limitations, it is not easy to respond to all questions at one time.
 
On the list of questions, I do not understand why you want us to discuss the role of donors in implementing OUR policy. I guess the question could be directed to us as (private sector. CSOs and the government isntitutions)
 
Lastly, I suggest we use our Kiswahili for this improtant debate to get more open views.....of course those who wish to use english they are free..as for me from now on, I will be giving my views in Kiswahili.
 
Can you also post the vision for members to givenb benefity of those who want to make quick reference?
 
wishing all of us good and genuine debate
 
Makongio
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Japhet Maingu Makongo
Ubunifu Associates Ltd
P.O. Box 32971
Dar es Salaam,
TANZANIA
Website: www.ubunifu.co.tz

A Weak Economy and Low Capacity for Economic Management: The economy has remained largely untransformed. Agriculture, the backbone of the economy, continues to be dependent mainly or rainfall and on backward technology. Thus agricultural productivity is low and erratic.”

This is true even today our farmers are not using irrigation farming methods and still use a hoe in cultivating the land and depend on seasonal rainfall. Tanzania is an agricultural country and our economy depends on agriculture. Yes we can now count on other natural resources as our gold. But  we have sold all our gold deposits to foreign mining companies at a very low price. By the time most of the mining agreements we conducted( in year 2000-2005) the gold price was at $300 (USD) but when the mining stared the price of one gram gold was at $1000(USD).Tanzania is therefore losing about $700(USD) per every gram of gold that is being mined in Tanzania. That money is being invested in countries of origin of the foreign mining companies such as Canada,Australia, South Africa, Ghana etc. Therefore our gold resources do not help in developing Tanzania and reduce poverty or changing our living standard.

This is an example of bad planning. Most of our mines will be mined out by the year 2020 and we will be left with only empty open pits filled with water.

When I started a gold mine in Sweden in 1995 the gold price was at $1000(USD) per gram gold. Why our mine experts in Tanzania could not predict such a thing before signing such agreements with foreign mining companies?

We are not going to achieve the vision 2025 unless the government changes its strategies, be creative in implementation and planning. It should also employ competitive and experience Tanzanians in exploration and mining.

Dr.Khamis

Sweden  

The donor dependency syndrome and a dependent and defeatist development at mindset:”The mindset of Tanzanians and their leaders has succumbed to donor dependency and has resulted in an erosion of initiative and lack of ownership of the development agenda.” This is completely true even today even our relatives in Tanzania are waiting for financial assistance from us leaving abroad. This is a big dilemma for development. People can’t trust themselves and fail to be creative. Another example comes from the government itself in handling the TRC. It has failed to trust itself in operating the TRC and waited for the help of a foreign investor that has also failed to operate TRC. In this case we are left with a deteriorating railway system. The Tanga-Korogwe-Moshi –Arusha railway line is not functioning at all. The central line-Dar es Salaam-Morogoro-Dodoma-Tabora-Kigoma has always problems and there are no sufficient locomotives. Our ports are not functioning at full capacity and always have conjunctions at Dar es Salaam harbor. Had I been the author of vision 2025 I would aim higher such as have electrified train services between Tanga-Korogwe-Morogoro-Dar es Salaam-Kigoma-/Moshi-Arusha.in this way we could effectively serve the public and boost our economy by making trade with Uganda-Rwanda and Burundi.At the same time expand the Tanga port for goods that could be transported to Uganda-Rwanda and Burundi.

Our farmers could use the railway system in transporting their products at a cheap price.

We are not going to achieve the vision 2025 unless the government changes its strategies, be creative in implementation and planning.

Dr.Khamis

Sweden  

Thanks for introducing this important topic. Many things can be written about it. However, we can all agree that we will not be able to achieve that vision by the year 2025., Most of our projects are donor dependent and our budget also has the same trend. The world economic crisis has also affected us and retarded some of our development projects.

I will return for further comments. I would like other participants to read about vision 2025 by entering into the following link:

http://www.tanzania.go.tz/vision.html

Dr.Khamis

Sweden