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Topic : Importation of counterfeit products in Tanzania: What should be done?  
 

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Counterfeit products pose a major risk to the public and are increasingly raising a concern over the fate of Tanzanians due to a massive importation of products whose quality believed to be of substandard.




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KAPILIMA HASSAN HASHIMU  : Sunday, November 21, 2010    
 

The issue of counterfeits products is a problem to most developing Africam countries. I feel governemnt should be tasked to implement the counterfeit poliy not just lay them in the shleves. More power and capacity should be given to the Bureau of Standards.

Civic education is also important. let people learn that these counterfeits though cheap are very dangerous

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Deogratias Kishombo  : Monday, October 11, 2010    
 

Dear TAKNET Members

Thank you all for your contributions. Honestly, I have been interested on a point made by Costa John from Mwanza when he says “An example of what am saying is that, in order to verify the standard of an electrical appliance made in brazil the authorities use machine made in Europe to evaluate the product made in Asia! Who told you Europe is the driver of others?” Of course he may be somehow right because even the machines (tasters) we use here are imported from abroad can be fake.

We import products including these machines which believed to be certified internationally but I doubt that fake machines (tasters) can enter in the country from dishonest traders. What can the authorities do?     

Deogratias Kishombo

Moderator

 
     

costa john kanaysu  : Wednesday, October 6, 2010    
 

Hi members, Angelo is somehow right or not right, Tanzanian do not lack nationalism at all, what has been missing is the internal marketing strategies for the home made/local products very few companies set enough budget for intensive advertising.


Once in this very sensitive agenda i said, TBS, TFDA and any other authorities can never eradicate the counterfeit product importation cause we do not have our own standards ie standards pioneered in Tanzania by our own scientist. An example of what am saying is that, in order to verify the standard of an electrical appliance made in brazil the authorities use machine made in Europe to evaluate the product made in Asia! who told you Europe is the driver of others? we need to establish our own means of testing products using our own local made equipment to compare our own made appliances with the imported.


A good example again is where TFDA try to abandon medicine made from manufacturers in Europe! this is unnecessary bureaucracy because at the end of the day TFDA uses Europe standard from the same companies to test product made in Europe, and actually this kind of exercises fuels cheating in the whole process.


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Abdallah Hassan  : Wednesday, October 6, 2010    
 

I support Kitundu, awareness among Tanzania is a problem, given the pace it will take generations to make the whole population aware. As we continue with awareness Campaign I am of the opinion that we strengthen control at our boarders. Let those responsible be more serious, accountable and patriotic.

 
     

TIMOTHY KITUNDU  : Wednesday, October 6, 2010    
 

Dear colleagues,


I partially agree with Angelo with his views. However, according to my opinion the main problemon the importation of counterfeits is lack of awareness. Most Tanzanians are not able to distinguish between fake/counterfeits imports and genuine ones. What can be done is; authorities should raise public awareness to the public the way TFDA, TBS, TFNC and others do during exhibitions and fairs. Once everyone is able to identify between the two, it would be easier to shun away such products.

Timothy Kitundu, dar es Salaam    
 
     

Lunyungu,Angelo  : Wednesday, October 6, 2010    
  Hallow dear members,
To my opinion, I think the case is highly accelerated by by ourselves. Why? The reason is that we do all know that some of the products imported from abroad are also available in our local/home market, but due our lack of nationalism we opt for those of abroad seeking for more of feel, pleasure, taste, attractiveness while letting out our durable ones.
The best solution is to stop purchasing them, as when they lost the market even the importers wont bother do search for them again. So the control is by natural destruction of their market in favor for our local products.


They say,

"we are the change that we want to see"
 
     

senorina kimario  : Wednesday, October 6, 2010    
 

Our leaders are not taken their responsibility as the leader but they based on their own benefit some times are the one who brought counterfeit products and allowed their partners and friends to do so.The whole nation must fight for that and then to deal with those people.Those who are conscious about the counterfeit problem must educate those who have no idea obout it.After doing that it can be easy for people to deal with that problem of counterfeit products.

It impossible for the people who live in rural areas and some people in urban to know about it but if someone go there and educate them we can be together to fight against counterfeit products and those who are engage on.People doesnot obey the law,and lack of good governance was the one reason failed to take place.Mfano mzuri ni vifuko vya mchele vilivyopatikana uko zanzibar vyenye nembo ya kampuni moja na tarehe ya kuisha muda wake ni 2011 lakini bidhaa ilikuwa tayari imekwisha mda wake ili ni tatizo lingine linaloibuka TBS,TFDI na wahusika wengine wako wapi,wananchi wa kawaida ni vigumu kufahamu kama bidhaa imekwisha muda wake,ELIMU ni muhimu kwao tatizo ni la kufoji tarehe na kuweka katika bidhaa tayari iliyokwisha haribika.Uwajibikaji finyu na kutokufuata sheria ni tatizo kubwa hapa Tanzania.Ushirikiano na nchi jiani nalo ni muhimu katika tatizo hili.

 
     

Deogratias Kishombo  : Tuesday, September 28, 2010    
 

Dear TAKNET Members


Thank you Ricky Renson and others for your opinion.  I think you should not give up, let us all fight together. The issue of counterfeit is very big in this country.  Who should fight counterfeit products?. I believe fighting these products is possible due to the fact that some countries in Europe have managed to control them.  Should Tanzania learn from these countries?


Deogratias Kishombo


Moderator

 
     

Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Tuesday, September 28, 2010    
 

I do agree that the counterfeit problem can’t be abolished in a country where reponssible for keeping and following the laws are driving wrong side(right hand side).However, this is a sign showing that soon Tanzania will follow the EU traffic laws and let people drive on the right hand side.Yes good governance means that laws have to be followed by all.The leaders have to give a good example to others. A lawless contry is bound to fail in everything!

All counterfeits should be destroyed.

Dr.Khamis

Sweden
 
     

Ricky Renson  : Tuesday, September 28, 2010    
  Lets we tackle the problem from the grass root, counterfeit problem will never be minimise neither abolished, Tanzania from my personal view is heading to the wrong direction, this is the country without law and order, a country without law and order is a dead walking country, imagine Police cars, Military cars,Ministers cars and government cars are driven on the wrong side of the road (oncoming cars side) if a country can not see this how do you expect to solve the counterfeit problem?, let we discuss small issues and the big issues automatically will follow in place, we can give our opinions day and night nothing will make the different without Good governance from the top.

Kind Regardshe
R. Renson
 
     

japjet Makongo  : Wednesday, September 15, 2010    
 

To me destroying in the possible relavant manner is the option followed by scrapping the business licence from the responsible person..naona bado serikali inagwaya kuwafunga....corruption itachukua nafasi yake tu.


 

 
     

Deogratias Kishombo  : Wednesday, September 15, 2010    
 

Dear TAKNET members

Again I would like to share with you on the issue of counterfeits. Deo Mutalemwa has posed a question, Should all counterfeits be burned or destroyed?  What are your views Dear TAKNET members on this question?

To me the answer is YES because even though all counterfeits are not hazardous to health but there is a need to protect our industries otherwise Deo should give more details on what products should be spared

However, a friend of mine has wrote to me that Tanzania lacks inspection protocols, industrial standards and certification, counterfeit reporting and much more. Is it true? If so what should be done to develop risk mitigation strategies?

 Moderator


 

 
     

senorina kimario  : Tuesday, September 14, 2010    
 

Dear TAKNET members



I would like to share with Kashombo on the issue of how people will be able to differentiate the genuine imported products against the fake and poor products. Its true that many TANZANIANS have no idea about counterfeit products which imported and the reason of that is lack of EDUC ATION and IGNORANCE which make them difficult to identify those products. 



Am back with my previous point that the agencies which created by gvt must be responsible to deal with this problem seriously and not play as a GAME.

CORRUPTION is also reason for this problem.The gvt also must educate the the people who buy the products for doing businness to be careful and report the products which they think are counterfeit. It means that THE WHOLE SOCIETY AND GVT must cooperate in order to combact counterfeit importation and educate the public the effects of using counterfeit products.                                    

 
     

Deogratias Kishombo  : Monday, September 6, 2010    
 

Dear TAKNET members

First of all I would like to send my appreciations to all contributors to this timely topic, thank you very much. Secondly, I would like to share with Kelly Wanda on two issues ‘counterfeits and poor quality products’. It goes thus; counterfeits are fake products but poor quality products must not necessarily be ‘fakes’ as the manufacturers depend on the need of the customers. (as I see)


I totally agree with Wanda that counterfeit products are made in the limitatation so as to be passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine ones. Now its another question on how the public will be able to differentiate the genuine imported products against the “fakes” and “the poor products”?  ……..!!


Deogratias Kishombo


Moderator

 
     

senorina kimario  : Thursday, September 2, 2010    
 

Mamlaka husika ni lazima ziwe makini kuangalia hizo bidhaa zinazokuwa zinaigwa ambazo hazina viwango vinavyotakiwa.Mamlaka kama TFDA, TBS na nyinginezo ni lazima ziwe mstari wa mbele ili kuweza kutatua ili tatizo la bidhaa feki zinazoingizwa nchini na nyingine zinatengenezwa na watanzania wenyewe hii ni hatari sana.

PIA MAMLAKA HUSIKA NI LAZIMA ITEMBELEE VIWANDA VILIVYOKO NCHINI NAKUKAGUA VIWANGO VYA BIDHAA HIZO.Pia serikali itoe ADHABU KALI kwa wale wote wanaojihusisha na usafirishaji wa bidhaa feki nchin hii itakuwa fundsho kwa wengine wanaotaka kuiga kitu hiki ambacho mimi nakiita ni mchezo mchafu.Tatizo RUSHWA imeenea na imezagaa kila kona ya nchi yetu ila tukishirikiana tunaweza kulishinda hili tatizo la kusafirisha bidhaa ambazo zimekopiwa na hazina viwango


senorina

 
     

Deogratias Kishombo  : Wednesday, September 1, 2010    
 

Dear TAKNET members 

Thank you very much for your valuable contributions for being part of the discussion over importation of counterfeits and the fate of Tanzanians. As we continue with our discussion the East Africa Business council with business leaders and government officials expected to convene for deliberation on the growing threat of substandard products in the region next month.  

Of course this is good news for East Africans towards the implementation of the EAC protocol on common market. It is my views that this conference will put down some of the major procedures and rules on how to curb the importation of counterfeits products. Shall we make it?

The conference organized by East African Business Council (EABC) in partnership with the government of Kenya through the Ministry of Industrialization and the East African Community Secretariat will come up with proposed policy reforms and recommendations to address the current weak or non-existing legislations to deal with the illicit trade.

The EAC has in recent years faced an influx of counterfeits and pirated products estimated to cost the regional governments over 500 million US dollars in annual lost tax revenues, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

Illicit trade, which includes among others, counterfeits, piracy and other Intellectual Property Rights violations; smuggling, among others undermines need for a stable and open marketplace which is fundamental to improving competitiveness and increasing investment.

Although EAC Partner States have taken some strides in seeking ways to address the menace, similar initiatives at a regional level have been lacking.

Thank you

Moderator


 


 


 

 
     

Deo Mutalemwa  : Wednesday, September 1, 2010    
 

Dear Participants,

I enter this discussion rather belatedly;  so hope I will not belabour points already covered by others.


(i) The problem of counterfeits basically lies with the consumers: they crave for cheap things. And here it is not limited to counterfeits only. It extends also to second hand goods and shoddy local manufactures. Solution: government should ban also second hand goods and relentlessly work to improve standards and quantity of locally manufactured goods. Second hand goods are in many aspects as harmful to persons and the economy  as counterfeits.


(ii)  Should all counterfeits be burned (destroyed) when  confiscated from the ports of entry and the shops? The answer  is no. Strange, isn't it? The reason is that some counterfeits that are not a health hazard can still be used by people in desperate situations, especially if we take into account that these needy people have hitherto no alternatives. But this must be limited to those goods that are marginally useful and, as said above, not dangerous to use. And so that  these goods do not to re-enter the market to out-compete with genuine ones,  their  use must be restricted to locations that are cordoned off to public access (like remote  areas isolated by floods, prisons, schools,  institutions for special handicapped persons, etc.).


(iii) Samples of the counterfeit items should be taken to research stations to disassemble or disintegrate in order to discern their composition and see how they can be improved under local manufacturing. The knowledge gained thereof can be passed on to  manufacturers of genuine items located here in Tanzania. This work should be strictly supervised  by government. [Remember  the manufacture of counterfeits  within Tanzania that is already underway can be an incubator of local industry). It is  not strange that some   South Eastern Asian nation tigers, that are now championing fast economic growth, actually began by pirating genuine goods and duplicating them , often initially not producing same quality as the genuine ones. Slowly they improved  upon the initial counterfeits to levels acceptable in the markets. That is why countries like China and Taiwan can still export same name goods but of different standards to USA and to Africa in a discriminating manner. Continues below >>>>

 
     

Deo Mutalemwa  : Wednesday, September 1, 2010    
 

>>>> Continues from above


The bottom line is that so long as the demand for goods  outstrips  supply, the consumers will tend to accommodate all types of qualities found in the market. Customer discrimination of goods per quality works well where  the supply is relatively abundant.


The above discussion is not to throw cold water on government measures  to fight counterfeits, which they take justifiably  to protect  revenue sources and consumer health.   My point is that we should, in public policy and practice, recognize realities and sometimes exploit them for national or specific objective advantage.  For example, distinguish between counterfeits of fake and dangerous goods with those that have been reproduced as generic goods  without full regard to trademark  proprietary rights (and brand names) or have been imported without permission (contraband). Some rights may go to ridiculous limits to prevent  poor countries from gaining market entry.



 

 
     

david masambe sando  : Wednesday, September 1, 2010    
 

hello !

what i get from comments is the issue lies with our procurement power, we have little to spend and so we get the cheap commodities we can afford and high grade products goes to people we can buy or afford them. I think if we need a change in chinese products we should first change ourselves, both income, lifestyle education status and expenditure power. 


would be much better if we can focus to area we can make a change from the perspectives of ourselves ! I mean we should ask what is  it within our capacity we can do to minimize or stop this problem, thereafter we can go out of our zone and see what others should change to make our life better

 
     

Kabuje Furaha  : Tuesday, August 31, 2010    
 
  • I think the use of media to educate the public on the bad effect of these counterfeit product to their health, loss(money) incurred by households and the economic damage to the nation, is very important to be emphasized

  • As one of our collegues said, the use of receipt in any trasaction should be encouraged. Fuel adulterators are caught because most of buyer collect the receipt after being aware of this problem. Relevant authority such as TRA, EWURA, TFDA, TBS and other should sensitize people to collect receipt in any transaction for their safety in case of counterfeit product.

  • Lets easy the way to report and quickly respond to such cases. This is because sometimes people are reluctant to report these cases because of beuaracracy in following up these kind of cases.

  • I have also gone through the European article where we can also do the following without added significantly cost;


    1. Conducting antcounterfeiting workshop which will be financed by producers whose their product is in alarming trend of counterfeit products

    2. Strengthen international cooperation with countries believed to be the source of such products.

    3. Firm measures including fines, confiscation of the products, and personal engaged should be sentenced with good number of years for them be afraid of this business. This will attract traders to cooperate with authorities to identify source and personal involved.

    Cont….

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    Kabuje Furaha  : Tuesday, August 31, 2010    
     

    Dear all,


    I was following the discussion by going though some of the argument raise for some time. I would like to differ with some few arguemtn raised.


    Raising tax cannot curb importation of counterfeit products, because this would restrict even the genuine one and eventually denying consumer right. Yes, raising tax to imports has being used to protect domestic products, but not importation of sub standard product.


    I would like to agree with some of my colleague that corruption could also be the reason for the alarming cases of counterfeits products importation. And also that the punishment for dishonest traders certainly is not enough to stop them from this kind of fatal business. Similar situation happen to those who caught with mutilated fuels.


    Here are my own view with regard to this problem;


    • In order to control this problem, we need to understand how these products penetrates domestic market. The counterfeit products penetrate in the market through two ways. Firstly is through  country borders formal and informal ones, the formal entry point includes ports/harbour, airport, borders such as Namanga, Tunduma and the informal includes njia za panya like the well known one which is at ‘Checkline or chekeleni’ –which is insame district, and other. Secondly, is through  local producers who adopted production technology and disseminates these products in the markets, certainly we have heard of chilli source being produced in manzese, soaps that’s are produced in culprit homes and packed intelligently ready to be sold in the market, …..

    • Some of these routes especially informal are well known and even TRA officer or police patrol operation is conducted periodically. But I am afraid there is higher rate of corruption in the these informal routes, people who are caught are believed to pay a certain percentage of the item/product value. This may also explain that relevant authority (police, TRA.e.t.c) are not doing enough to control/curb  this problem.

    Cont....

     
         

    senorina kimario  : Tuesday, August 31, 2010    
     

    on this issue of importation of counterfeit products in tz i think the government  must make sure that the agencies which are responsible for checking those products enter in our country.

    TBS must be responsible for all and must be avoid to receive corruption in order to deal with this problem effectively.

     
         

    costa john kanaysu  : Tuesday, August 31, 2010    
     

    This is very wrong perception in this technological thinking kind of generation, TBS have been concentrating on qualitating different products on comparison to products made in Europe or USA, in fact they are working agents of western block  of which I do not agree if they are matuarly driven to promote technology in other developing countries like Tanzania and china.


    The same same product may have five quality definition 
    depending on the type and level of the manufacturer, I have been shocked by those  people who destroys TV, Radio, papers etc on quality reasons while comparering quality with reference to their own standard and not the manufacturers! no! no! no! no! Let the product be identified by the manufacturers lebel to clarify the maker, durability and functions, basing on these clarification let the TBS tell us what is missing on the specification before destroying the product.


    Just imagine the first Tanzanian made car is called Nyumbu, if exported to UK,USA or Japan will it be destroyed because it doesn’t meet those indigenous quality cars?



    Costa Kanyasu 



     

     
         

    Kelly Wanda  : Tuesday, August 31, 2010    
     

    I think this could go to the moderator.  Seems to me we might want to differentiate issues here. What are we really bothered with?  counterfeit?  Yes counterfeit denotes some sort of criminality involved.  I might be wrong but I need to be corrected here.  Counterfeit products are made in imitatation so as to be passed off fraudulently or deceptively as genuine; there is some forgery normally.


    This is different from poor quality products. Poor quality products are normally cheaper and the customer has a chance to make a decision.  The latter is not an imitation or there is no forgery.


    I think we do have both cases.  I am not sure which accounts for a larger market share.  I think our debate is more on the former.  In this case this is something that needs to be fought by all including the manufacturers of such goods that are imitated.  Yes once one or two are got; once a system is put in place ( and you can tell whether its working by the number of culprits netted) then slowly we could talk about some progress.  Yes it is difficult.  Ever since they started netting robbers or thieves, the vice has never stopped. 


    Of course the other thing is that there is need to educate the people so that they are able to identify these counterfeit products.


    Kelly

     
         

    leevan spanish maro  : Monday, August 30, 2010    
     

    That is very true james,but mostly emphasing on good governance and adherance of established standards will make our country safe on the importation of counterfeit products,because ethic is dead and mourners are few,that's why illegal business penetrate to our country.please Tanzanian we need to work on it,its ours

    Leevan Maro
    Crdb bank plc

     
         

    William Joel Mkubwa Mdundo  : Monday, August 30, 2010    
      Trade Liberalisation without Regulation is what has allowed harmful and counterfit products to be imported into the country at will. Nothing will stop greedy and unscrupulous traders from turning this country into a dump yard unless we reavaluate what had gone wrong with our liberalisation and institute apprpropriate measures to protect the health and wellbeing of our residents.

    William J. M Mdundo
    Consultant
     
         

    Kelly Wanda  : Monday, August 30, 2010    
     

    Sure Makongo I agree.

    And I think also the authority responsible should be sensitized and given targets to achieve in terms of reducing the volume of counterfeit products on the markets.  The inspection should be strengthened and given targets to follow.  In case of failure they should be held accountable.


    Yes the population should be sensitized but along side this a long-term approach would also be to grow our economies.  I know it's touch but I think it just a question of getting the right approach and we can have accelerated growth in Sub-Saharan Africa.  Much as they might be cheaper, they are costly in the long run!

     

    Kelly
     
         

    TIMOTHY KITUNDU  : Monday, August 30, 2010    
     

    The issue of counterfeits is a bit complex. The Chinese are accused of manufacturing fake products using backyard factories and dumping them to countries like Tanzania. However, I was once in the US and witnessed people buying Chinese products which were first class, better than some products from the western countries.


    It means, not all Chinese factories make fake products. What we can do right now is to ask ourselves one fundamental question: why do our organisations such as FCC, TBS, and others do not effect inspection of goods from their origins? The problem lies with us as our laws and regulations are also unimplementable.

    Timothy Kitundu.   
     
         

    Deogratias Kishombo  : Monday, August 30, 2010    
     

    Greeting,.


    Thank you very much for you're contributions. Your're contributions depict  that Tanzanians would like to live in a better society of quality products. However, most of the contributions seem like point the fingers to the government...true it should be responsible for importation of all products entering in to the country. Ironically, in order to curb this problem should this war start from the 'grass roots level ' (the families). I do agree that the culture of "I do not care" has been a big problem to our society.


    Otherwise in order to expand the discussion I would like you to read the following information on how European nations control the counterfeits products and piracy. Please open the link: http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/customs/customs_controls/counterfeit_piracy/commission_initiatives/index_en.htm


    Moderator

     
         

    Paul John Salia  : Friday, August 27, 2010    
     

    In deed Civic education is important but is it all?


    People’s purchasing power in Tanzania is quite low to the extent that some people deliberately go for the counterfeit products i.e. shirts, mobile phones, building materials, shoes etc. I am tempted to think that counterfeit products are among things that characterize poor economies like Tanzania and the consequence is obviously making the already poor people poorer.


    Controlling the importation of counterfeit goods in our country is still a big challenge especially because the process through which they get in is complicated. When you move around you would wonder whether there is any control at all because there are so many things of that nature. Every place and every shop is full of those things. Sometimes when you go buy a spare part of your car the seller may, just without any fear; ask you whether you want a genuine one or fake one. This is where we are and I think without taking serious measures the ongoing programs to reduce poverty are most likely not going to be effective


    Any way, this is real an interesting topic.


    Salia

     
         

    Wenceslaus Aloyce  : Friday, August 27, 2010    
     

    All countributions are good. I concur with Steven on the question "Where are the local industries to protect?" so as to impose the law to "end the importation of counterfeit products in Tanzania" One will understand my point at the end of the message, please follow through;


    Threre's a great need to sustain what has been laid for the development of a country in successive administration of a country. So many African countries do not have this perspective. As a result we've seen slogans changed, policies changed and so forth. Kilimo is one of the many sectors under MKUKUTA but instead of setting aside funds to empower MKUKUTA while assesing its impacts, we come up with a new song in the market. The problem with resources is tantamount due to the fact that the government has been shouting to welcome the so called investors (including the Chinese) and pamper them to own resources which could have been in the hands of the government and, believe me, thats the reason as a country there's no office that can shout to any investor if they dont comply with the agreement(s) they signed for. And besides, some of the so called leaders, happen to partner with "investors" or else, we are made to believe its "investors were as its our very own fellows who are the stakeholders of the country's resources in their best interest and not for the country.


    Refer to the issue of North Mara, the main river used by the poor Tanzanians was poisoned and many people and animals died, everyone saw that, but what measures have been taken in the best interest of a country. The "investor" is still enjoying the best of this country. And we are made to


    Now we are made to sing the undanceable song of Kilimo kwanza. Kilimo is one sector among the many sectors which provide for the economy of this country including the major, MINERALS which are taken out of the country carelessly. Perhaps we could be singing "Minerals first" and things could have been different as the case is with Botswana. After Libya (depending on fuel), Botswana is said to be an Afrikan country that is providing subsistence allowance to its unemployed citizens. The only reason is because as a country they were able, from the beginning, to control the mining sector and subdue the mineral market under the government. Now they are enjoying the benefits. During the era of Mwl. J.K Nyerere who never valued to be called a Dokta/Profesor/Mtukufu, during his leadership period we could sing of Kilimo because minerals were still unmined, now the song has to be "Minerals First" followed by sectors like "Infrastructure" "Kiliomo na/cha umwagiliaji" "Michezo - see how USA, China, European countries prosper especiallyl in the youth wing where there's natural creation of employment and very high rate of income, we politicize everything include our own chances to manage the economy in the name of politics which on turn has created "local capitalists" and creating the classes between ourselves which were never there in history of Tanzania under indepence. The Chinese are coming following the ease "investor" atmosphere we created for them (investors).  (Continues below >>>)

     
         

    Wenceslaus Aloyce  : Friday, August 27, 2010    
     

    (>>> Continues from above)


    What I see is the fact we have to re-organise ourselves in many areas. Instead of using so much resources to deal with importation of counterfeit products from China while forgetting some of those are produced here in the country by the Chines or our own fellows, we have to re-organise ourselves and manage so many areas and be able to pre-finance ourselves and the investment sector by using the paying (valuable) resource sectors such as Minerals, Sports, Infrastructure, Agriculture, Tourism, Fishing e.t.c. Instead of sitting back to think of dealing with Chinese importation of counterfeit products, we have to re-organise ourselves and we will come up with our priorities. The Chinese priority as a country is to "Export" as much as they can, what is our priority as a country? We should not waste time to create problems and later on to cost us massive sums of money only to find out there's another problem to deal with, we MUST have priorities. Those counterfeit products some of them are manufactured here in Tanzania by the Chinese or our own fellows who happen to learn of the Chinese technology after seeing the potential market within the low purchasing power community. So, they serve them according to their needs/demand, capacity and ability to buy. The reason for this is because as a country we fail to meet the demands of citizen and those who came to understand the need of the poor community and how to serve them using the loopholes in the administration will always find ways to make super profits out of the seemingly low earners pockets, that's what is happening on the ground.


    So, its not the issue of counterfeit products, its due to lack of priorities and many loopholes in our own administration.


    1. TRL came with say, four engine/heads of train. They manage to get more than TZS 35 Bilion loan and later we throw them without reaping what we advanced to them.


    2. DAWASCO came likewise, they reap from our country and thrown away and still the water company is not managing the supply in the country.


    3. TANESCO saga as well. Still we have power shortage, thank for the election time we will enjoy power through out but later we will have to bear the consequences soon after elections, if we come back to power as usual.


    So, its not counterfeit products issues that we have to deal with. We have to re-organise ourselves in so many areas with a view to build the economy. The administration of a country should be changed or it has to change its perspective on development issues and deal squarely with burning issues like/especially corruption, otherwise we are playing a hide seek game. You stop importation of counterfeit products; whereas someone is producing the same in the country. Kazi ipo jamani!!! Lakini wakati ndo huu, election ahead of us and YES WE CAN!

     
         

    Cornelius Kariwa  : Friday, August 27, 2010    
     

    Strict rules and their enforcement at entry points should be observed by any serious govt. If need be the govt should may borrow leaf and learn from other jurisdictions of how to put in place workable anti-dumping controls if TFDA and TBS have been reduced into becoming mere barking toothless dogs. It is high time we had strong and biting dogs that can protect the people of Tanzania.

    Cornelius

     
         

    James Ndege  : Friday, August 27, 2010    
     

    Dear colleagues,


    In my personal view I think:


    The issue of counterfeit is complicated and it needs all of us in this world to play our parts. That is goverment bodies (enforcement at port of entries and at the market), authorised manufaturers (trace their genuine products in the market and report to their respective authorized government bodies any illegal practices) , distributors (be registered in the countries where their products are sold and buying the products from legal manufacturers) , sellers (be licensed and buy products from authorised dealers/distributors and keep receipts for tracebibility among other resons)  and consumers (report to government bodies any unusual products and keep receips for legal purposes).


    Banning froma certain country is not a permanent solution because dealers of such illegal business may change destinations any time anywhere in this globe.


    James Ndege


    Librarian

    Tanzania Food and Drugs Authority (TFDA)
     
         

    John Magoha  : Friday, August 27, 2010    
     

    Dear colleagues,

    I believe the strategy should be to control what comes in regardless of where it comes from. For those experienced in importing from China would tell you that they normally have three quality classes of the same item to choose from. We should enforce importation of quality goods and be strict just like TRA did to freight and clearing agents, you make one blunder you loose your license, your bond is gone and/or plus penalties. Also, we should be able to sue the government and get compensated for the goods it approved and found to be of substandard or affected the consumers. With the two lines of defense we shall be in a better move.

    John

     
         

    japjet Makongo  : Thursday, August 26, 2010    
     

    Dear taknet members,


    This is a very good and timely topic. Timely in the sense that we shall soon get  a new government in place by the end of the year. It is my expectations that views given on this topic can be usefull for whoever comes into the decision making ring box.


    I have three observations on what need to be done.


    First, we know that this is global challenge and it goes beyond one country strategy. One of the reason why we all fall victims of counterfeit products is the price competitiveness. Unless we provide alternative quality products at affordable prices we shall not entangle ourselves from the web. My suggestion is for the government to become serious in implementing the East Africa Protocal on Trade and make joint efforts to produce and market similar products with quality but at cheaper prices. All  what the governments need to do is to import the technology from wherever these products are coming.... and I am sure we can provider even cheaper labour force. with the technology in our hands, we can use the quality assurance and regulatory systems to improve what our consumers need. It may seem a far fetched idea, but serious governments can do it!


    Second, we need some immediate actions to the matter. I do not understand why those who are involved in the game even when caught are left to enjoy their harvest with a token punishment? What does it cost the government to whipe out 100 untrusted  and selfish business giants for the benefit of the populace? In China, the very country where these products are believed to come gave a death sentenced to whoever was found to sell poisoned milk for children! We may not want to kill, but we can merely ask these people to stop what they are doing by extracting their business licenses and asking them to help build the nation at Segerea and elsewhere. I guess this comes down to having a committed and accountable government. I need to be advised...what is wrong with our rules and regulations? Are our institutions who have been mandated to implement these regulations toothless barking dogs or are they part of the game? HADITHI YA KARUME KENGE inanijia kila mara.  (Continues >>)
     
         

    japjet Makongo  : Thursday, August 26, 2010    
     

    (<<< From above)


    Third, it all comes to what people know about the effects of the counterfeit products. Unfortunately we have created the "I Do not Care Society" so selfish and self-centred individuals. We all want to show off to other that we are different even if it means sacrificing other peoples health.  I appeal to the leading Civil Society Organisations and professional associations-engineers, doctors, accountants, environmental activitis etc to give priority on educating the people about these products. In my opinion, professionals have not done enough to inform the public about the effects of having tons of counterfeit product on our soil. takethe example of low quality of the dry battery cells. You need to buys several pieces to finish shaving your beard and some do not even kick start the shaving machine. We do not have proper disposal facilities and knowledge and as result they are thrown every where. We all know what it means when they are burriend in the soil or come into contact with fire....they effects are is detrimental and yet these batteries are in all retail shops ...kule ambako watu wenye kipato cha chini wanaumia.... ni hatari


    We should be aware that, there is not good governance, quality eduaction, sound enviroment and climate change workshops if people are eating poison and dying! My wito is that lets all go Civic Education and Awarness on morals, ethics and making the people to take responsibility start seing "us as well as seing me"


    One last comment........ I was optimistic with Jakaya Mrisho's call some months ago to help the political parties to distinguish "politics and business", but as long as these tycoons are   still in the political arena we have slim chances of geting through-they are the ones behind counterfeit products including kuchakachua mafuta!


    God protect Tanzania


    Makongo

     
         

    Ram Iyer  : Thursday, August 26, 2010    
      I differ with your views LENGESIA. Even if the Government puts ban on these items, still they can sneak into any country by other names. We need to keep a watch on the traders who import these items, and if found fake, take action. It happens in every country. Some time back, the eye solution used for contact lens were banned because of chemical reaction with the eyes. Soon those products were withdrawn from the shelves in many countries. A good example which happens even now in UK is that some of the food products are sold with red sticker, to mean that they are expiring in a day or two. Such products are sold at lesser prices. I have seen many consumers, especially non europeans, buy these products and keep them in the refrigerator and consume them for few weeks. Now who is to be blamed? The Government? The Shop Keeper? The Consumer.

    What we need is consumer awareness and their rights.

    Ram S Iyer, Dar Es Salaam
     
         

    martha khungwa chalera  : Wednesday, August 25, 2010    
     

    Issue of counterfeits products is a problem to most developing Africam countries. I feel governemnt should be tasked to implement the counterfeit poliy not just lay them in the shleves. More power and capacity should be given to the Bureau of Standards.


    Civic education is also important. let people learn that these counterfeits though cheap  are very dangerous

     
         

    STEVEN TULA  : Wednesday, August 25, 2010    
     

    Yes I do concur with Dr.Khamis on some aspects but I have the following doubts:


    China did overtake Germany last year to become the largest exporter on the global scale,hence simply forbiding imports from China may not solve the problem!With globalization some raw materils may be imported to other countries and end up in your country as finished goods.


    Again on the import duty,currently the duty stands at 85 %! When you increase a tarrif you must as well be intending to protect the local industries:the trouble is where are the local industries to protect?

     
         

    ALOYCE FLORIAN LENGESIA  : Wednesday, August 25, 2010    
      The government of Tanzania should be more serious about their own people they should remove the idea selfishness and put the public in front. for example certain type of milk from S Africa TFDA tell the people to stop using them now my Question is where is the Role of TFDA during importation of the product, second thing how are they going to refund for those who have already import the product (is their any possibility of communicating with the producer)

    this will continue make people of Tanzania poor so long as they have the product and they follow all the procedure of importing them and they have payed VAT, IS THE GOVERNMENT OF TANZANIA SERIOUS ABOUT THEIR CITIZEN OR IS JUST THEIR AS A SHADOW GOVERNMENT.

    TO CUT THE STORY SHORT LET STOP CORRUPTION AND PUT THE SELFISHNESS AWAY, LETS BUILD THE NATION TOGETHER

     
         

    Omari Mwinyi Khamis  : Wednesday, August 25, 2010    
     

    Actually the importation of baby milk from China should be forbiden.This product has been a major concern for the Chinese government since it has killed many Chinese children.The importers of foreign goods to Tanzania are well known to the TFDA and TBS and these authorities can put more pressure and punish the culprits.If they don’t do that the public can be shure that these authorities are co-operating with the culprits.This is a sort of corruption as usual in Tanzania.

    The media can help in informing the public or consumers about junk food that is imported in the country.

    It is not fair to import substandard products just to gain more profit.The government can impose high tax in these products inorder to discourage the importation of such products.A 40% tax on such produsts can produce a good effect on importers.They will have to consider twice before importing those illegal goods.


    Dr.Khamis

    Sweden

     
         

    Abdallah Hassan  : Wednesday, August 25, 2010    
     

    Dear TAKNET members


    Once again we take this opportunity to invite you to participate to the new discussion on "Importation of counterfeit products: What should be done?" 



    The main objectives is to explore how the government and other stakeholders can control the quality of imported goods especially food from foreign countries. Specifically the discussion aim at finding solution to curb the importation of counterfeit products which are detrimental to our health and economy in general.



    Your contributions are considered important in overcoming the problem. For more information about the topic please read the introduction above.



     

     
         

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